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As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by runjake »

dopeboy wrote: post #13
runjake wrote: post #8

I worked on stealth aircraft that would occasionally cause civilian UFO reports. It was common for the reports to mention that these UFOs maneuvered unlike any man-made aircraft, which was always a good chuckle because they were usually just flying straight or banking normally. However when seasoned military pilots like Fravor speak on the matter, I listen. When a bunch of them speak about the same incident, I take t…

What would you say is the most credible incident that everyone should take seriously?

The Nimitz Incident of 2004(?).

Extremely detailed visual and sensor events.

Tons of human witnesses. Tons of activity.

There was a detailed Reddit thread on the incident from a Seaman many, many years ago long before news of the Tic Tac came out.

I’m on mobile but perhaps someone else can paste the thread URL.

Could be an elaborate hoax but that’s one heck of a long con game.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by runjake »

krapp wrote: post #16
runjake wrote: post #8

I worked on stealth aircraft that would occasionally cause civilian UFO reports. It was common for the reports to mention that these UFOs maneuvered unlike any man-made aircraft, which was always a good chuckle because they were usually just flying straight or banking normally. However when seasoned military pilots like Fravor speak on the matter, I listen. When a bunch of them speak about the same incident, I take t…

Were they really really big, black and triangular?

The B-2A was.

Some other stuff were stealthy cruise missiles. Not too big but they flew so low that they would cause some “shock and awe”.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by klghqr »

The press and politicians started hyping up the UFO issue last year when it was clear that we were headed for cold war 2.0.

It is a great narrative to get more funding, get people interested in space and the MIC, etc.

The timing is suspect, it seems like just another manufactured crisis.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by jseliger »

runjake wrote: post #31
dopeboy wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you say is the most credible incident that everyone should take seriously?

The Nimitz Incident of 2004(?). Extremely detailed visual and sensor events. Tons of human witnesses. Tons of activity. There was a detailed Reddit thread on the incident from a Seaman many, many years ago long before news of the Tic Tac came out. I’m on mobile but perhaps someone else can paste the thread URL. Could be an elaborate hoax but that’s one heck of a long con game.

The original appears to have been deleted, but you may be referring to https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1qyu5i/my_ufo_encount...

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by epistemer »

hwillis wrote: post #6

Why don't commercial pilots report the same things? I believe they have far more time in the air. It seems very, very unlikely aliens would have any interest in our military capability. Even ignoring the technological implications of interstellar flight or the ability to enter our atmosphere without being detected, these objects are apparently massively more capable than any kind of vehicle we have. To them a fighter…

On the navy video I remember one of the guys mentioning they think it is a drone.

It such hubris to believe those are alien craft and not foreign military drones. As if alien craft is the more probable explanation than another country having drones the US Navy does not.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by [deleted] »

dilippkumar wrote: post #25
3pac wrote: post #3

I saw a UFO maybe 12-13 years ago. It did not look like anything a human would design, even with advanced technology. It looked something like the oblong silver blob in The Flight of the Navigator, just hanging there, "much in the way that a brick doesn't." It must have been 5 km away so it would have been pretty large. It was a breezy overcast day with low clouds, and the moving clouds obscured but never completely…

Aha! You’re the person I’ve been searching for. A person who has seen something that is incredible (literally) and has a hard time following up because of a complete absence of data/evidence to back up your claim. Going back to your experience, what tools do you wish we as a society had that would help us document your experience? Did you try to document your experience? What were the barriers you encountered? If you…

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Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by marmetio »

likeabbas wrote: post #17

I really wish people would take a look at the extensive analysis some scientists have done to show the 3 navy videos of UAP are showing flight characteristics that defy our laws of physics. This guy on Twitter has done a fantastic job to show the GIMBAL object performed what we can only describe as a “vertical u-turn” https://twitter.com/the_cholla/status/1504855791060148224?s=... This paper shows the tic tac video e…

What do you want people to get out of those analyses? They quantify the incredible observations, but they don't explain how those observations could be possible, nor rule out other explanations.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by krapp »

klghqr wrote: post #34

The press and politicians started hyping up the UFO issue last year when it was clear that we were headed for cold war 2.0. It is a great narrative to get more funding, get people interested in space and the MIC, etc. The timing is suspect, it seems like just another manufactured crisis.

That doesn't actually make sense, though. UFO believers were losing their minds thinking "disclosure" had finally come, but most politicians never even mentioned it and the press never presented it as a crisis.

If the government wanted to create fear and panic in order to justify funding, they had numerous real-world scenarios to draw on. Manufacturing a meme about UFOs is a stupid way to do that, assuming "it was clear that we were headed for cold war 2.0."

The report itself didn't even manufacture a crisis. It was lackluster at best, failing to reach a definite conclusion, much less hype up an imminent threat that presumably needs funding.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

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Post by likeabbas »

marmetio wrote: post #38
likeabbas wrote: post #17

I really wish people would take a look at the extensive analysis some scientists have done to show the 3 navy videos of UAP are showing flight characteristics that defy our laws of physics. This guy on Twitter has done a fantastic job to show the GIMBAL object performed what we can only describe as a “vertical u-turn” https://twitter.com/the_cholla/status/1504855791060148224?s=... This paper shows the tic tac video e…

What do you want people to get out of those analyses? They quantify the incredible observations, but they don't explain how those observations could be possible, nor rule out other explanations.

At least in terms of the 3 navy video, I would argue that the data purports, with high confidence, that the craft did exhibit flight performance characteristics that we cannot explain with modern technology or physics. And these are just the three videos that got released. Many people with security clearances have come forward and said the AATIP database has hundreds videos (with the classified sensor data) of craft showing advanced flight performance characteristics.

I want people to understand that this phenomenon is real, and it’s happening constantly. So much to the point that it’s affecting military training operations and putting our fighter jet pilots at risk.

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