Live data from Hacker News

As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

thehill.com

21–30 of 978 posts

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

#21
It makes sense to slow roll UAP/ET phenomena anyway, as they probably understand that beings of an emerging intelligence tend to align to whatever they percieve as powerful (just as other animals become dependent on human garbage dumps) and adapt to the dependency instead of evolving and developing themselves freely according to their natures.

The dependency arrests their development, and ethically, who wants to be around just another bunch of pets? I could see there being some distinction between domestication and actualization, where the former stunts an evolution and the latter develops and accelerates it. The more interesting question around UAPs for me is under what conditions would we elevate a species on earth to participate as peers in our own civilizations, and what would the analogous criteria be for us to level up in the same way.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

#22
post #6

Why don't commercial pilots report the same things? I believe they have far more time in the air. It seems very, very unlikely aliens would have any interest in our military capability. Even ignoring the technological implications of interstellar flight or the ability to enter our atmosphere without being detected, these objects are apparently massively more capable than any kind of vehicle we have. To them a fighter…

An autonomous monitoring system for galactic-scale existential risk bearing technologies would def have probes that monitored the technological development of remote civilizations.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

#23
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mick and others do a great job. But they often leave key details out or selectively choose facts. For example, with the GIMBAL video, the pilots are on record saying the object is 6-8 nautical miles (NM) away as they saw on their Situation Awareness (SA) Screen. Mick’s attempt to debunk the GIMBAL rotation asserts that the object was 30 NM away, and he refuses to look at other evidence that contradicts the statement.…

The SA page on the MPCD is very small and cluttered. Is it possible that the pilots made a mistake?

It's not an isolated incident. There has been many sightings and direct action (e.g. fighter jets sent to pursue) by members of US military as well as those in other countries.

The Navy incident got the traction it did because the original footage leaked years ago and only now acknowledged.

If you're interested, see here for a documentary on the Colares, Brazil UFO incident that occurred in 1977 https://youtu.be/Mr1NrnsdY5I

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

#24
post #6

Why don't commercial pilots report the same things? I believe they have far more time in the air. It seems very, very unlikely aliens would have any interest in our military capability. Even ignoring the technological implications of interstellar flight or the ability to enter our atmosphere without being detected, these objects are apparently massively more capable than any kind of vehicle we have. To them a fighter…

They do, in fact all the time. You just don't hear about it because of stigma. See this NARCAP (civilian flight safety) report https://www.narcap.org/blog/narcaptr20 for a case where a FedEx flight crew documented an encounter with the commonly reported pulsating orb type anomaly. There is a video. Observed behavior: > The UAP/Light came from above and stopped/hovered near FL37, about the same altitude as the aircraf…

The pulsating in the NARCAP video looks like the camera trying and failing to find focus on anything that it's looking at.

Interesting though.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

#25
post #3

I saw a UFO maybe 12-13 years ago. It did not look like anything a human would design, even with advanced technology. It looked something like the oblong silver blob in The Flight of the Navigator, just hanging there, "much in the way that a brick doesn't." It must have been 5 km away so it would have been pretty large. It was a breezy overcast day with low clouds, and the moving clouds obscured but never completely…

Aha! You’re the person I’ve been searching for.

A person who has seen something that is incredible (literally) and has a hard time following up because of a complete absence of data/evidence to back up your claim.

Going back to your experience, what tools do you wish we as a society had that would help us document your experience?

Did you try to document your experience? What were the barriers you encountered? If you were to document it, where would you go to document it?

Ultimately, we need a civilian infrastructure of sensors, cameras etc pointing up at the sky to independently verify UAP. The first step in such an effort is some sort of statistical data that shows how often this occurs.

With such data, we can build a realistic null hypothesis: (x number of cameras looking at y area of the sky for z years should find 0 UFOs if the null hypothesis is true)

It’s impossible for a civilian effort to even begin to accumulate the data to make even vague guesses on what x, y and z should be.

And so, identifying the barriers that you encountered to document your experience is actually kinda important.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

#26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do, in fact all the time. You just don't hear about it because of stigma. See this NARCAP (civilian flight safety) report https://www.narcap.org/blog/narcaptr20 for a case where a FedEx flight crew documented an encounter with the commonly reported pulsating orb type anomaly. There is a video. Observed behavior: > The UAP/Light came from above and stopped/hovered near FL37, about the same altitude as the aircraf…

The pulsating in the NARCAP video looks like the camera trying and failing to find focus on anything that it's looking at. Interesting though.

Camera autofocus is commonly brought up but in this case the crewmen were able to attest to the pulsating with their eyeballs, in addition to the other strange behaviour as noted in their testimony.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

#27
On the subject of the term UFO.

The term Unidentified Flying Object is perfectly fine. But then some people say "Aha, you mean aliens, right". No, It is like the SQL NULL, No unidentified object matches any other unidentified object. If I meant aliens I would have said it was an Identified Flying Object(IFO) or perhaps an Extrateresteral Flying Object(EFO), But all I said was that something was flying and I could not identify it. Once you identify it, it is no longer a UFO.

Apparently The military abandoned the term UFO mainly because enough people attached more meaning to the term than it actually has. And it got awkward to use because of that attached meaning.

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

#28
post #9
post #6

Why don't commercial pilots report the same things? I believe they have far more time in the air. It seems very, very unlikely aliens would have any interest in our military capability. Even ignoring the technological implications of interstellar flight or the ability to enter our atmosphere without being detected, these objects are apparently massively more capable than any kind of vehicle we have. To them a fighter…

"To them a fighter jet might as well be a Cessna." To play devil's advocate for a moment: they'd have to know the capabilities of these jets to make that determination, and observation of some sort would be required to do so. "Artifacts" (anomalous errors) appear on flight systems' sensors all the time, and atmospheric distortions can easily appear to the naked eye as flying/moving objects. I don't buy either that ot…

>> To them a fighter jet might as well be a Cessna

I always find it odd that we ascribe a human understanding of logic to an alien species. Seems to me we wouldn’t know jack shit about motivations, capabilities, approaches to decision making, etc…

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

#29
post #22
post #6

Why don't commercial pilots report the same things? I believe they have far more time in the air. It seems very, very unlikely aliens would have any interest in our military capability. Even ignoring the technological implications of interstellar flight or the ability to enter our atmosphere without being detected, these objects are apparently massively more capable than any kind of vehicle we have. To them a fighter…

An autonomous monitoring system for galactic-scale existential risk bearing technologies would def have probes that monitored the technological development of remote civilizations.

[deleted]

Re: As a US Navy fighter pilot, I witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena

#30
post #28
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"To them a fighter jet might as well be a Cessna." To play devil's advocate for a moment: they'd have to know the capabilities of these jets to make that determination, and observation of some sort would be required to do so. "Artifacts" (anomalous errors) appear on flight systems' sensors all the time, and atmospheric distortions can easily appear to the naked eye as flying/moving objects. I don't buy either that ot…

>> To them a fighter jet might as well be a Cessna I always find it odd that we ascribe a human understanding of logic to an alien species. Seems to me we wouldn’t know jack shit about motivations, capabilities, approaches to decision making, etc…

well we make some reasonable baze line assumptions for an intelligent life form -- they have self preservation instincts and as such likely operate on some base level of game theory.
Post reply on HN