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Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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Post by CSMastermind »

mancerayder wrote: post #53

When I read some of the suggestions here in these comments, some of them exist already in Reddit. Now at the risk of getting downvoted, my experience is that Reddit is awful: spiteful posts, tons of short sentence replies that litter the eyes, circular meme-like self-referential wink-wink behavior (i.e. repeating the same joke with slight modification). There are some thoughtful subs (star something codex) but overal…

This year one of my resolutions was to finally give up Reddit because I kept recognizing the site frustrating, annoying, or disappointing me. Whether intentional or not that seems to be the type of content generated there.

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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Post by Agraillo »

thadt wrote: post #38

I get the sentiment. Many times I've been trawling the Internet for commentary on a topic when I come across a fantastic HN discussion from years ago and wish I could ask a question, or make a comment in that conversation today. However, our gating factor is time and attention - we only have a fixed amount. I suspect that what makes many HN discussion valuable is that the few top discussions draw most of the focus of…

Your comment inspired... HN is a pool of ideas of "above average" quality fighting for the attention of readers in evolutionary sense. As in the life they born and die, the lifespan is very short, but the "DNA" of the best fitted lives somehow through the users passing them to other users.

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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Post by testmasterflex »

CSMastermind wrote: post #61
mancerayder wrote: post #53

When I read some of the suggestions here in these comments, some of them exist already in Reddit. Now at the risk of getting downvoted, my experience is that Reddit is awful: spiteful posts, tons of short sentence replies that litter the eyes, circular meme-like self-referential wink-wink behavior (i.e. repeating the same joke with slight modification). There are some thoughtful subs (star something codex) but overal…

This year one of my resolutions was to finally give up Reddit because I kept recognizing the site frustrating, annoying, or disappointing me. Whether intentional or not that seems to be the type of content generated there.

Download Apollo and unsubscribe from all mainstream subreddits + remove all and popular, is the key.

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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Post by edgyquant »

mancerayder wrote: post #53

When I read some of the suggestions here in these comments, some of them exist already in Reddit. Now at the risk of getting downvoted, my experience is that Reddit is awful: spiteful posts, tons of short sentence replies that litter the eyes, circular meme-like self-referential wink-wink behavior (i.e. repeating the same joke with slight modification). There are some thoughtful subs (star something codex) but overal…

I stopped using Reddit over a year ago and found a couple of traditional forums to replace it with. Sure I don’t have enough discussion to soak up hours of my day but in turn I’ve just started reading more books. My mental health has greatly improved.

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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Post by chrismarlow9 »

mancerayder wrote: post #53

When I read some of the suggestions here in these comments, some of them exist already in Reddit. Now at the risk of getting downvoted, my experience is that Reddit is awful: spiteful posts, tons of short sentence replies that litter the eyes, circular meme-like self-referential wink-wink behavior (i.e. repeating the same joke with slight modification). There are some thoughtful subs (star something codex) but overal…

This wasn't always the case. I've used Reddit since the Digg days and in the earlier days it was long form comments with sources and the vote system was actually used as a "this is true" signal instead of an "I don't agree with this". The thing that killed it in my opinion was the layout change to embed media directly in Facebook style. Sure there's always old.reddit.com , but the problem is that because of the default interface change it drives a certain type of ecosystem for submissions and discussions that's not as enjoyable.

Tl,Dr when it was primarily a text based website the discussions were better. The gifs, video, meme layout is like junk food.

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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Post by yakubin »

californiadreem wrote: post #22

What is the age of a Hacker News post before discussion dies on average? It seems like having a feed for any new comments on posts posts older than that age would allow anyone interested in longer-term discussion to opt-in without requiring any additional features.

There is a timeout after which you can't respond to a comment. So old threads don't die only because people lose interest, but also because HN doesn't allow them to continue the discussions anymore.

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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Post by avemg »

1983054105 wrote: post #55
mancerayder wrote: post #53

When I read some of the suggestions here in these comments, some of them exist already in Reddit. Now at the risk of getting downvoted, my experience is that Reddit is awful: spiteful posts, tons of short sentence replies that litter the eyes, circular meme-like self-referential wink-wink behavior (i.e. repeating the same joke with slight modification). There are some thoughtful subs (star something codex) but overal…

Rant: I was banned from Reddit once again yesterday (for the 100th time) because of my harassing behavior. The comment that caused this was about "daily Scrum meetings that were way too long in most companies." I'm dumbfounded about who would have reported this, and who confirmed that this was harassment. Reddit may be fine for very specific subs, but overall it's a real mess where power hungry mods have fun without…

As Raylan Givens once said: If you ran into an asshole in the morning, well, you ran into an asshole. Keep running into assholes all day, you're the asshole.

I've been on reddit since before subreddits existed and I've never been banned. Now I'm sure you've had your run-ins with some unhinged mods now and then but to be banned 100 times, you should probably take an honest look at your own behavior.

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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Post by xyzelement »

The idea resonates. I remember in the good old days of BBS, there was a smaller community of folks having longer range conversations on a smaller set of topics.

IIRC the BBS software surfaced threads based on recent replies rather than novelty so interesting threads stayed current for longer.

It would be hard to replicate and I am not sure how one would start but I miss it :)

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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Post by mentos »

CSMastermind wrote: post #61
mancerayder wrote: post #53

When I read some of the suggestions here in these comments, some of them exist already in Reddit. Now at the risk of getting downvoted, my experience is that Reddit is awful: spiteful posts, tons of short sentence replies that litter the eyes, circular meme-like self-referential wink-wink behavior (i.e. repeating the same joke with slight modification). There are some thoughtful subs (star something codex) but overal…

This year one of my resolutions was to finally give up Reddit because I kept recognizing the site frustrating, annoying, or disappointing me. Whether intentional or not that seems to be the type of content generated there.

I’d love to see AI that automatically curates the comments so that all the ‘witty’ takes can be collapsed under one category. But I think I’m with you in that it’s probably just time to move on. I’ve found a lot of my discussions have migrated to Discord for better or worse

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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Post by MatthiasPortzel »

mancerayder wrote: post #44
wwarner wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i’m finding mastodon very reminiscent of the early usenet, in tone and quality, tho haven’t yet seen a years long thread.

I stopped at having to decide on a server and the specific content of them. Is there a recommendation for HN-like people? i.e. mixes of tech, economics, small doses of politics, etc. in response to articles?

The server you join only effects what website you go to interact with Mastodon, who stores your data, and what you're allowed to say. But from any mastodon instance, you can read content which is hosted on any other mastodon instance.
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