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Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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I miss Usenet in the 1990's where threads would go on for months or even years. I used "slrn" to read news and it was great. It would only show me new posts. I could kill a thread to filter it so I didn't have to see it. I could just hit one button to go to the next post on the thread or to the next thread. In many ways it was superior to modern web based forums.

i’m finding mastodon very reminiscent of the early usenet, in tone and quality, tho haven’t yet seen a years long thread.

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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More chat than forum, with the exception that the comments stay on the Web instead of being hidden in the logs. Forums and chats do have a solution to too big size : they can just split into others (or subforums) once the linear discussion becomes unmanageable.

Yeah. More chat than forum, in the sense that people rarely venture to reply on what is older than a day (apart from Ask/Show HN; both hang a little longer) I don't get your solution. It seems to me that HN threads are already tree-like.

Yes, but they are a bit too easy to split, which means that a good chunk of comments end up getting ignored.

I sometimes read the new ones by first reading all of them, and later manually scanning every comment newer than X hours, but it's tedious.

I guess a system that would automatically hid old comments (except their immediate parent) might work ?

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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post #42

I miss Usenet in the 1990's where threads would go on for months or even years. I used "slrn" to read news and it was great. It would only show me new posts. I could kill a thread to filter it so I didn't have to see it. I could just hit one button to go to the next post on the thread or to the next thread. In many ways it was superior to modern web based forums.

i’m finding mastodon very reminiscent of the early usenet, in tone and quality, tho haven’t yet seen a years long thread.

I stopped at having to decide on a server and the specific content of them. Is there a recommendation for HN-like people? i.e. mixes of tech, economics, small doses of politics, etc. in response to articles?

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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post #42

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i’m finding mastodon very reminiscent of the early usenet, in tone and quality, tho haven’t yet seen a years long thread.

I stopped at having to decide on a server and the specific content of them. Is there a recommendation for HN-like people? i.e. mixes of tech, economics, small doses of politics, etc. in response to articles?

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Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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post #42

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i’m finding mastodon very reminiscent of the early usenet, in tone and quality, tho haven’t yet seen a years long thread.

I stopped at having to decide on a server and the specific content of them. Is there a recommendation for HN-like people? i.e. mixes of tech, economics, small doses of politics, etc. in response to articles?

fosstodon.org?

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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post #42

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i’m finding mastodon very reminiscent of the early usenet, in tone and quality, tho haven’t yet seen a years long thread.

I stopped at having to decide on a server and the specific content of them. Is there a recommendation for HN-like people? i.e. mixes of tech, economics, small doses of politics, etc. in response to articles?

SDF at least ostensibly overlaps with hacker folks, though they ended up on a list of Mastodon servers to join so there are a lot of randoms.

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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The thread discussion ends often because of two things - new popular posts pushing old ones off the front page and the lack of constant notification. Both are by design and what make HN great.

To encourage longer term discussion without changing the existing design, one idea is to add longer term notification to keep the engagement on a thread discussion, e.g. a daily summary of the responses to my comments coming as a notification. One is not constantly bombarded with instant notifications but still have a chance to catch up on the responses.

I remember Usenet newsgroups were sync’ed daily via uucp, which forced a delayed notification of new responses.

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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post #42

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i’m finding mastodon very reminiscent of the early usenet, in tone and quality, tho haven’t yet seen a years long thread.

I stopped at having to decide on a server and the specific content of them. Is there a recommendation for HN-like people? i.e. mixes of tech, economics, small doses of politics, etc. in response to articles?

I think you’re overthinking it. You can follow people on other servers, so the actual server you’re on is… not hugely important to the experience.

I’d say, pick any server that’s close enough and just play with it for a while. That way you can get a feel for what it’s like, and you can also see if you end up repeatedly following people from a specific server. If you do, you can move over to that server if you want.

I started on hachyderm.io and it seems vaguely like what you describe, though I also follow a few people from infosec.exchange

Re: Ask HN: Longer Discussions in HN?

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For ages that was Slashdot.

Often enough I find myself wishing hn had the "semantic moderation" of Slashdot, where posts are tagged as e.g. Informative, Funny, Flamebait. That and the pleasure of finding out that you had mod points that day.

The articles could have a tag too, I believe.
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