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Re: Nostr.how – A Complete Guide to Nostr

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Post by anonkogudhyfhhf »

hem777 wrote: post #94
anonkogudhyfhhf wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crypto meaning cryptography yes it's needed. If you a referencing bitcoin like technology used for money no they don't help here. Please enough with this "crypto" ignorance

Think of cryptos more like “incentives to rational behavior” than “money” and it starts to make sense. You can incentivize, for example, data availability with cryptos and that opens the design space for distributed systems that don’t need to be controlled by one entity (like Twitter, for example).

Nostr already has bitcoin payments for incentives. Please example one concrete example where a blockchain is needed for nostr protocol itself

Re: Nostr.how – A Complete Guide to Nostr

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Post by anonkogudhyfhhf »

lazzlazzlazz wrote: post #86
anonkogudhyfhhf wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crypto meaning cryptography yes it's needed. If you a referencing bitcoin like technology used for money no they don't help here. Please enough with this "crypto" ignorance

How do you guarantee data availability and avoid double spending without Byzantine fault tolerant consensus (that is, blockchain crypto)? If you have an answer you will be onto something huge.

What? Double spend a twitter message you sign? Please example your logic here and use of the technology

Re: Nostr.how – A Complete Guide to Nostr

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Post by hem777 »

anonkogudhyfhhf wrote: post #101
hem777 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think of cryptos more like “incentives to rational behavior” than “money” and it starts to make sense. You can incentivize, for example, data availability with cryptos and that opens the design space for distributed systems that don’t need to be controlled by one entity (like Twitter, for example).

Nostr already has bitcoin payments for incentives. Please example one concrete example where a blockchain is needed for nostr protocol itself

Does it? If so, what do the bitcoin payments incentivize?

Re: Nostr.how – A Complete Guide to Nostr

#104

Post by Barrin92 »

drowsspa wrote: post #96

Honestly, I don't get the fuss about these "libertarian-inspired social network protocols". It's not like the technical side of social media is the tough one: it's always been the political and sociological one. In the end, most people aren't hardcore libertarians and do want content moderation, centralized discovery, spam blocking... I would really find it interesting if it came about a protocol that actually cared…

it's not even a social networking protocol, it's literally just a networking protocol for the reasons you laid out.

And of course all the dynamics you talk about emerge naturally. With scale comes concentration and hierarchies out of necessity, the power to blocklist 'relays' across the largest instances, etc.

All these experiments basically are a venture in rediscovering economics and politics. The internet started out decentralized. Reinventing html and web servers isn't changing anything.

Re: Nostr.how – A Complete Guide to Nostr

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Post by newswasboring »

hem777 wrote: post #95
libraryatnight wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may need cryptography. I think the majority of HN likes cryptography. When you say crypto, and apologize for it, I assume you mean the stupid coins and all the nonsense that comes with that group of fools, and that is not required.

It seems to me it does require cryptos. Which luckily are based on cryptography so we all get to like the path forward :)

Do you have a particular use case in mind which cryptocurrency enables here? Care to give an example of how they help solve a issue?

Re: Nostr.how – A Complete Guide to Nostr

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Post by newswasboring »

With the rise in decentralized social networks I was expecting a lot more tastemakers to emerge. People who are not influencers in the current sense but more like old social column writers which told us the best clubs or restaurants in the city. Are there people publishing list of people worth following or something along those lines?

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Post by FireInsight »

drowsspa wrote: post #96

Honestly, I don't get the fuss about these "libertarian-inspired social network protocols". It's not like the technical side of social media is the tough one: it's always been the political and sociological one. In the end, most people aren't hardcore libertarians and do want content moderation, centralized discovery, spam blocking... I would really find it interesting if it came about a protocol that actually cared…

A good Mastodon instance can certanly provide what you say most people'd want. Since it's activitypub, you wont be locked in to mastodon only. And since it's foss, account migration will probably be worked on as it's the #1 critique of Mastodon (aside of onboarding).

Re: Nostr.how – A Complete Guide to Nostr

#108

Post by erskingardner »

jasonjmcghee wrote: post #46
erskingardner wrote: post #40

I’m the dev behind Nostr.how. I’d love to hear your feedback on how I can make the site more clear/better at explaining Nostr. That said, while I am not the core dev on the protocol or any client/relay it’s been awesome to see the points of confusion from the comments and questions here. Keep them coming - great fodder for new guides.

Search doesn't seem to work for me. There are always no results.

Still waiting on the Algolia docsearch team to get me some api keys.

Re: Nostr.how – A Complete Guide to Nostr

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Post by Ambolia »

class4behavior wrote: post #4

The whole premise of Nostr is that you consider your access point hostile, yet its provider is still offering one. That contradiction just incentivizes bad and toxic actors to participate and dominate this network. That's why, it seems, the developers actively conflate what one would expect from a private communication platform and a social media platform. But this isn't an alternative to Mastodon or Twitter, it's an…

You can implement censorship at the relay level and then choose your censor.

Re: Nostr.how – A Complete Guide to Nostr

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Post by dchnshA »

FireInsight wrote: post #107
drowsspa wrote: post #96

Honestly, I don't get the fuss about these "libertarian-inspired social network protocols". It's not like the technical side of social media is the tough one: it's always been the political and sociological one. In the end, most people aren't hardcore libertarians and do want content moderation, centralized discovery, spam blocking... I would really find it interesting if it came about a protocol that actually cared…

A good Mastodon instance can certanly provide what you say most people'd want. Since it's activitypub, you wont be locked in to mastodon only. And since it's foss, account migration will probably be worked on as it's the #1 critique of Mastodon (aside of onboarding).

Mastodon already has account migration and had it for a long time.
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