Live data from Hacker News

Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

reuters.com

41–50 of 103 posts

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#41

I understand the advantages of this for the government. It will be much easier to track and control how we spend our money and ensure that we pay every last possible cent of taxes. What is the advantage for me as a citizen?

Blockchain cures cancer and makes you more handsome. Imagine what it would do for national fiscal policy.

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#42

I understand the advantages of this for the government. It will be much easier to track and control how we spend our money and ensure that we pay every last possible cent of taxes. What is the advantage for me as a citizen?

> It will be much easier to track and control how we spend our money Will be? will in future ? The majority of my GBP transactions are digital already - they are not pieces of paper with picture of the late Queen changing hands, they are database records, mediated by a "buy" button in the web browser, or the tap of a card onto a reader. The currency is mostly digital, already.

Yeah, over distributed databases controlled by multiple competing entities. With a single system under the government's purview, it's orders of magnitude easier for any government agency to get that data consolidated.

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#44

Crypto was always mis-marketed as decentralised. It’s not. The American banking system is decentralised. Credit is created and balances maintained at the edges. Blockchain is centralised. This brings many efficiencies. But it also empowers those at the centre.

Huh? What a strange characterization. Blockchains, some, are clearly decentralized and permission-less. US banking system is highly regulated and permission-ed. Are you standing by your statement with a serious face? https://www.occ.gov/about/who-we-are/index-who-we-are.html

Centralization is a loaded term here. Using a distributed protocol doesn't automatically make it decentralized. Alternatively, being heavily regulated doesn't mean it's centralized. You can move your business to a different bank. You can't move to a different blockchain and stay in the same payment system.

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#46

I understand the advantages of this for the government. It will be much easier to track and control how we spend our money and ensure that we pay every last possible cent of taxes. What is the advantage for me as a citizen?

In the UK that has had a functional transaction system for half a century, not that much. In the US it would be revolutionary to stop mailing checks between banks.

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#47
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In theory if the gov can collect all tax then taxes should be lower.

In practice, a government with unlimited capacity for raising taxes will just expand its scope indefinitely.

Even considering the Laffer curve, no government today has tax rates at what empirical analysis suggests would be revenue maximizing, so not sure this is true.

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#49

Crypto was always mis-marketed as decentralised. It’s not. The American banking system is decentralised. Credit is created and balances maintained at the edges. Blockchain is centralised. This brings many efficiencies. But it also empowers those at the centre.

Be careful not to be distracted by the technical implementation. Centralization is about control. And by being highly regulated, it’s super centralized.

Personally I believe this is an incredibly good feature, not a bug.

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#50

I understand the advantages of this for the government. It will be much easier to track and control how we spend our money and ensure that we pay every last possible cent of taxes. What is the advantage for me as a citizen?

I see and acknowledge the catastrophic loss of privacy that digital currency portends

> What is the advantage for me as a citizen?

There are some, trivially.

The overhead of handling cash is eliminated. Moving bundles of notes

Reduces the possibility of theft

Related, makes the security of your stash somebody else's problem

The opportunity cost of proton notes and mounting coins is recovered

Post reply on HN