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Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

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Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#21

I understand the advantages of this for the government. It will be much easier to track and control how we spend our money and ensure that we pay every last possible cent of taxes. What is the advantage for me as a citizen?

> ensure that we pay every last possible cent of taxes. Is that a bad thing? (The end, not the means)

It may be if you believe the government will do evil things with the money, which is often a reasonable belief.

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#22
Crypto was always mis-marketed as decentralised. It’s not. The American banking system is decentralised. Credit is created and balances maintained at the edges. Blockchain is centralised. This brings many efficiencies. But it also empowers those at the centre.

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#23

Crypto was always mis-marketed as decentralised. It’s not. The American banking system is decentralised. Credit is created and balances maintained at the edges. Blockchain is centralised. This brings many efficiencies. But it also empowers those at the centre.

>Blockchain is centralised.

You lost me here. What exactly about "blockchain" is centralized? The fact that there's a central ledger?

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#24

I understand the advantages of this for the government. It will be much easier to track and control how we spend our money and ensure that we pay every last possible cent of taxes. What is the advantage for me as a citizen?

> It will be much easier to track and control how we spend our money

Will be? will in future ? The majority of my GBP transactions are digital already - they are not pieces of paper with picture of the late Queen changing hands, they are database records, mediated by a "buy" button in the web browser, or the tap of a card onto a reader.

The currency is mostly digital, already.

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#25

I understand the advantages of this for the government. It will be much easier to track and control how we spend our money and ensure that we pay every last possible cent of taxes. What is the advantage for me as a citizen?

It is also difficult to see what good scenarios this enables. This tech in China is being used to un-bank people who the government thinks are troublemakers. It also looks like it would enable direct-to-consumer money printing which will end poorly (but, I suppose, is better than handouts to the wealthy).

The UK government, and Western governments more generally, have a terrible history of lies about who they are going to use this sort of capability on. It starts out being sold to catch child rapists, murderers and foreign agents then a few years later we get to discover who is actually going to be targeted. The US's system of anti-terrorist laws have turned out to be for internal use and it is a stroke of justice that they are more threatening to the right wing, who championed bringing them in.

People really need to get it through their thick skulls that centralising power => your political enemies will have more power when it is their turn.

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#26

I understand the advantages of this for the government. It will be much easier to track and control how we spend our money and ensure that we pay every last possible cent of taxes. What is the advantage for me as a citizen?

Not only that, they will have a much more fine grained inventory of things you own. Convenience might be a personal advantage.

Not only that, most tory MPs will now have investments related to digital currency and will make a load of money off the back of this.

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#28

Crypto was always mis-marketed as decentralised. It’s not. The American banking system is decentralised. Credit is created and balances maintained at the edges. Blockchain is centralised. This brings many efficiencies. But it also empowers those at the centre.

Can you elaborate how the American banking system? What does a central bank have to do with decentralization?

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#29

Crypto was always mis-marketed as decentralised. It’s not. The American banking system is decentralised. Credit is created and balances maintained at the edges. Blockchain is centralised. This brings many efficiencies. But it also empowers those at the centre.

Huh? What a strange characterization. Blockchains, some, are clearly decentralized and permission-less. US banking system is highly regulated and permission-ed.

Are you standing by your statement with a serious face?

https://www.occ.gov/about/who-we-are/index-who-we-are.html

Re: Bank of England and Treasury think UK is 'likely' to need digital currency

#30

Crypto was always mis-marketed as decentralised. It’s not. The American banking system is decentralised. Credit is created and balances maintained at the edges. Blockchain is centralised. This brings many efficiencies. But it also empowers those at the centre.

Isn't the most undesirable thing about the blockchain is the inefficiency?

IMO the fundamental misconception about cryptocurrencies, that I know about, is that trust can be replaced by an algorithm. The most important ingredient of money is trust

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