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Re: LVFS – Linux Vendor Firmware Service

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Post by bitwize »

jmclnx wrote: post #4

As mentioned, I did not know this exists either, but I wonder what they consider a "Major Linux Distro" ? > This site is used by all major Linux distributions to provide metadata for clients such as fwupdmgr and GNOME Software. Based upon that statement and the fact fwupdmgr does not come with Slackware, maybe major equates to GNOME Based ? But with some extra work, looks like this could be useful for non-GNOME distr…

"Major" = RHEL, Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, perhaps also Arch.

Slackware is niche, sorry.

Re: LVFS – Linux Vendor Firmware Service

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Post by mindslight »

jmclnx wrote: post #4

As mentioned, I did not know this exists either, but I wonder what they consider a "Major Linux Distro" ? > This site is used by all major Linux distributions to provide metadata for clients such as fwupdmgr and GNOME Software. Based upon that statement and the fact fwupdmgr does not come with Slackware, maybe major equates to GNOME Based ? But with some extra work, looks like this could be useful for non-GNOME distr…

I wouldn't take it too literally, rather it's just a way of marketing its popularity.

Is there an alternative organization that gathers firmware that ends up on Slackware? If so, then sure there is an argument to be made that companies need to pay attention to both and one shouldn't be claiming to be fully authoritative. But if not, then progress would be Slack getting firmware updates from here, if the distro is interested in such things.

Re: LVFS – Linux Vendor Firmware Service

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Post by CameronNemo »

hughsient wrote: post #9
jmclnx wrote: post #4

As mentioned, I did not know this exists either, but I wonder what they consider a "Major Linux Distro" ? > This site is used by all major Linux distributions to provide metadata for clients such as fwupdmgr and GNOME Software. Based upon that statement and the fact fwupdmgr does not come with Slackware, maybe major equates to GNOME Based ? But with some extra work, looks like this could be useful for non-GNOME distr…

Is Slackware a major Linux distribution? There's nothing wrong with Slackware, and no reason why fwupd wouldn't work on that distro -- but it's not one that most people would considered "major" IMHO. There are no GNOME deps on fwupd, although there are a couple of GNOME frontends available -- as there is also a CLI and KDE frontend.

Slackware is the oldest active Linux distribution.

Re: LVFS – Linux Vendor Firmware Service

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Post by CameronNemo »

bitwize wrote: post #11
jmclnx wrote: post #4

As mentioned, I did not know this exists either, but I wonder what they consider a "Major Linux Distro" ? > This site is used by all major Linux distributions to provide metadata for clients such as fwupdmgr and GNOME Software. Based upon that statement and the fact fwupdmgr does not come with Slackware, maybe major equates to GNOME Based ? But with some extra work, looks like this could be useful for non-GNOME distr…

"Major" = RHEL, Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, perhaps also Arch. Slackware is niche, sorry.

Not niche enough, AFAICT

https://slackbuilds.org/repository/15.0/system/fwupd/

Re: LVFS – Linux Vendor Firmware Service

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Post by jonathantf2 »

CameronNemo wrote: post #13
hughsient wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Slackware a major Linux distribution? There's nothing wrong with Slackware, and no reason why fwupd wouldn't work on that distro -- but it's not one that most people would considered "major" IMHO. There are no GNOME deps on fwupd, although there are a couple of GNOME frontends available -- as there is also a CLI and KDE frontend.

Slackware is the oldest active Linux distribution.

Older doesn't mean major though.

Re: LVFS – Linux Vendor Firmware Service

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Post by CameronNemo »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #10
rmolin88 wrote: post #5

I use `fwupd`[0] all of the time. Mandatory: I use arch btw :D [0]( https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/fwupd )

One of the cool things about Fedora or Arch is we get to see these changes in their infancy before most are aware. This, pipewire, etc. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SystemFirmwareUpdates

I mean... any distribution is like that, no? Pipewire for example has been in Debian since two releases ago. You would probably not to run it on those releases unless you were building your own up-to-date bug-fixed packages from a custom repo, but that is not out of the question especially with CI/CD being what it is nowadays.

Re: LVFS – Linux Vendor Firmware Service

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Post by CameronNemo »

mindslight wrote: post #12
jmclnx wrote: post #4

As mentioned, I did not know this exists either, but I wonder what they consider a "Major Linux Distro" ? > This site is used by all major Linux distributions to provide metadata for clients such as fwupdmgr and GNOME Software. Based upon that statement and the fact fwupdmgr does not come with Slackware, maybe major equates to GNOME Based ? But with some extra work, looks like this could be useful for non-GNOME distr…

I wouldn't take it too literally, rather it's just a way of marketing its popularity. Is there an alternative organization that gathers firmware that ends up on Slackware? If so, then sure there is an argument to be made that companies need to pay attention to both and one shouldn't be claiming to be fully authoritative. But if not, then progress would be Slack getting firmware updates from here, if the distro is int…

Yeah I worry if you change that statement and put an asterisk like "most major distros", vendors might take it less seriously. It does sort of set you up for a no true Scotsman discussion, though.

Also Slackware does have fwupd, at least in its "SlackBuilds" system where a lot of optional packages end up AFAICT.

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