The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry

Post by rightbyte » Sat, Feb 04, 2023, 2:24 PM UTC

dataflow wrote: post #461

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C'mon. In practice the differences are hugely overblown. The fundamentals are about the same. Also doing "modern" Cpp with dogmatically ugly static and reinterpret_cast and shared or unique_ptr:s everywhere is just annoying. "Best practices" in SWE are usually antipatterns since they are Cargo culted in a dogmatic way. But then again I am a embedded C programmer ...

> C'mon. In practice the differences are hugely overblown. The fundamentals are about the same. > Also doing "modern" Cpp [...] is just annoying. You're basically saying "I can totally do what you're asking, but I actually think it's super annoying and I'd very much rather do things my own way, so you should hire me because I'm an excellent candidate." Do you expect this to be a good sell?

Post by Shorel » Sat, Feb 04, 2023, 2:29 PM UTC

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> If you're given license to finally rewrite that [C++03] code to modern standards Then you aren't choosing C++20-something, you're choosing a new language altogether. This is why the demand for C++ devs is dropping - if you're going to bite the bullet and rewrite, why not choose a better language, preferably with GC?

They probably want the performance of C++ without the learning curve of Rust It's not like C++20 is completely different. There's just a lot more utilities in the stdlib so hopefully less raw pointer magic.

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Feb 04, 2023, 2:38 PM UTC

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Just spent two years writing a medium size fresh c++ codebase in modern style with all the warnings turned to max and nearly every static analysis tool we could throw at it from day 1. It’s been an utter pleasure with no pain that can be blamed on c++ alone. It can be done :)

for stuff like gaming & HFT, you are probably forced to do it in C++, it is a sad reality affecting small % of developers. for everything else, if you are still building fresh new projects in C++, you are making a big mistake. C++ today is like Cobol in 2010. yes, there are reasons for them to exist, people tell your the good old days, probably some fresh good recent experience. but come on, there is a much better pl…

Post by pjmlp » Sat, Feb 04, 2023, 2:44 PM UTC

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klaussilveira wrote: post #19

Heh. I'm pretty proficient in modern C++, and it is my favorite tool for a lot of things, but my PHP job pays way more than any C++ position available. Did an interview once for Senior C++ Engineer, embedded software in the medical device space. All went good, until the offer: $100k. Articles like this are nothing more than a desperate attempt at getting younger generations to learn said topic, so companies can pay t…

Yep, I'm in the same boat. C++ jobs always pay like shit, so I sling web apis together with C# and make 3x as much. It's way easier and less stressful. I'll only use C++ for hobby projects now, and then only if it's the right tool for that job.

Post by orf » Sat, Feb 04, 2023, 2:58 PM UTC

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I think it’s fairly obvious to anyone who has worked in or around finance that while the contractual hours are X, the work requires 2X hours, thus being unable to take your laptop home requires 2X hours in the office.

Perhaps it would have been helpful to actually say that given that this is not a forum aimed at or primarily populated by people who work in or around finance. In a general context, "8:30 to 5 and you can't work from home" sounds like a description of the standard 20th century business schedule.