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Want anonymity? Make a persona not a mystery

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Re: Want anonymity? Make a persona not a mystery

#291

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> "little white lies" are a relatively prevalent part of society. And many consider them bad and cowardly. > To pick a mundane example: if somebody asks me "how's it going", I'm almost certainly going to say "good" That is not really white lie, more a phrase / exchange with established meaning, both sided knows the protocol.

Nonchalantly redefining lying just because everyone is vaguely aware the lie exists is silly. You do realize you can just adjust your original absolutist position on lying = indicator of future trustworthiness by just recognizing the nuance of human communication, correct?

It's not a redefinition. Lying requires the purpose of deception. When you ask me how I'm doing as part of a greeting ritual and I say "good" as a response neither of us actually believes we're communicating anything meaningful about our states. In that circumstance it's understood and even expected that the response will be superficial. Indeed, malicious honesty could be entirely impolite. For example if you say "how are you?" and I say "well I was doing really poorly, but then I took a giant crap in the office restroom and now I feel better" and then continue with full and excruciating honesty to describe all the gory details you might not appreciate that oversharing.

Re: Want anonymity? Make a persona not a mystery

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Wait what, the entire post is literally "just go make up an avatar/username". > If you don’t want any attention, just pick a very common name like Mary Kim or Adam Johnson. > Use an AI face generator to create a completely believable face to match your new name. Download it once and use it everywhere. Run it through face aging software to use this same persona for the rest of your life. > Pick a city and say it’s you…

The entire post is about making up a deceptive human username and AI generated human photo. What I'm talking about is making a name like rco8786 and using the avatar of whatever... a delicious ham sandwich. There is nothing novel about making up an avatar. The point of the article is "trick people by making it a believable one so they'll think that's you, and not just an avatar." Ie. there's an incredibly important s…

He isn’t saying you can’t do that, he’s saying if you do, people will wonder, which is risky. If you give them answers, even false ones, they’re less likely to wonder.

It’s just tapping into the natural human curiosity, and you want to avoid that kind of attention to maximize your chance of staying anonymous.

Re: Want anonymity? Make a persona not a mystery

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Ah yes... I'm Skimmington Harborough, Esq., I come from a family that made its fortune in philanthropy generations ago. This seems like a pretty straightforward mechanism for covert operatives, to generate a believable (and memorizable) cover that pulls attention away and maintains coherence. That said, as someone who prizes ethical behavior, it's not possible to practice this and remain wholly honest without some so…

thats a fucking lie

Re: Want anonymity? Make a persona not a mystery

#295

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https://stylometry.net/user?username=O__________O

stylometry.net is hot garbage. Zero of the candidates that it identifies as being related to buildsjets are my actual alternate accounts. The DBCooper one is interesting, it sounds like a username I might use, but it's still not me.

On the other hand, for me, both of the bolded accounts were indeed my alts.

Re: Want anonymity? Make a persona not a mystery

#296
You look down, they know you're lying and up, they know you don't know the truth. Don't use seven words when four will do. Don't shift your weight, look always at your mark but don't stare, be specific but not memorable, be funny but don't make him laugh. He's got to like you then forget you the moment you've left his side. And for God's sake, whatever you do, don't, under any circumstances...

Re: Want anonymity? Make a persona not a mystery

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> If everybody lied all the time, we wouldn't have a functioning society. This is true. But I don’t think anyone makes the point that someone should lie all the time. Especially not that everyone should lie all the time. I think that there’s an ethical argument for lieing for some greater purpose (eg, a spy working for the Underground Railroad).

That phrasing has to do with how Kant thinks you come to discover moral truths: it’s an appeal to Kant’s idea of the categorical imperative which, for him, is the basis of all morals. So, essentially, the claim here is “since you cannot lie all the time and have a functioning society then, by my prior arguments about what morality is, you can never lie”

That interpretation falls on its own absurdity. "Since you cannot eat all the time without dying of obesity, you must never eat at all". The categorical imperative only generalizes across people. "Can you have a functioning society where people tell a white lie now and then?" And the answer is clearly yes. Is it superior to one where everyone is perfectly honest? Less obvious.

Re: Want anonymity? Make a persona not a mystery

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What they’re talking about is called “apparent cover.” That is, a cover story which you don’t have to tell anyone, they make it up in their head from the clues you provide.

For example, if you see someone at dawn on the docks with a tackle box, a fishing pole, and dressed for fishing, you don’t think “spy come to take photos of ships.”

Providing a plausible identity is a good practice for hiding your identity.

I wouldn’t suggest the AI face though. Firstly, it makes the face picture unique in that you can’t (currently) get other pictures of the same “person.” If you have a single picture of yourself it looks weird. Facebook without any pictures? Instagram with nothing? No other pictures of yourself, ever? Definitely weird. Better to just avoid it and use the plausible identity as a layer behind your online handle. Then use an avatar, but don’t hide your name. George Howell, aka “17forty” ‘from college, when I used to drink a lot of 40s, 17 was my personal best lol. Just dumb stuff.’

Re: Want anonymity? Make a persona not a mystery

#299

The CIA's retired head of disguise pointed out, in commenting on a movie, that you can't really have a drawer full of fake personas (the intel community calls them "legends") ready for use. Good personas are high-maintenance. They have to have some reality behind them - mail drops, email accounts, phone numbers, social media presences, even physical offices. Those take time, money, and ongoing attention. You can't ju…

I wonder if there's a service for online persons with other online persona friends.

With AI generation, it wouldn't be impossible maintain fake networks then insert someone new in. It just has to seem plausible enough.

Re: Want anonymity? Make a persona not a mystery

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That's pretty genius. I have no social media for socializing, it's purely a photo and idea box.

It's now possible to:

- Create a believable phony organization "Meet the leadership team" page using deep fake images and ChatGPT bios.

In the near future, it will be possible to:

- Generate significant history social media trail with random posts and shares of fake content of all kinds, joining groups, and participation to build up legends to be sold to customers in the future.

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