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Re: Edward Snowden Joins Nostr

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Post by wkat4242 »

shapefrog wrote: post #3

> What is Nostr? > A decentralized network based on cryptographic keypairs and that is not peer-to-peer, it is super simple and scalable and therefore has a chance of working. Read more about the protocol. You can also reach us at our Telegram group (while we don't have a decent group chat application fully working on Nostr). Telegram really has captured quite a role as a functional forum / irc channel.

Discord too.

I wish people would use open tech like matrix more. It's perfectly suitable for this also.

I don't mind Telegram so much but Discord wants a lot of personal information through its PC client. So I don't really use it even though some open source projects unfortunately do (like Home Assistant)

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Post by wkat4242 »

tee_0 wrote: post #4

I’m looking forward to twitter. When they start hosting video in a serious way and also long documents that will be very interesting. I think it’s ironic because all the people defiantly switching to a decentralized platform are just making twitters success more inevitable by drawing attention to platforms that will fail regardless rather than one of twitters serious competitors. The real decentralized system has bee…

> Only nerds will ever use federated, decentralized systems, only nerds will ever accept the trade offs that come with them.

Yeah only nerds will ever use email :P

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Post by drexlspivey »

throwaway81523 wrote: post #2

Tweet text: "One of the cool things about Nostr ("Notes and other stuff transmitted by relays", a new decentralized protocol that replaces things like Twitter and Instagram)—beyond censorship resistance—is that you aren't limited to 280 characters." Sounds like Usenet. What will it do about spam?

Proof of work is integrated in the protocol. Either relays or clients can require arbitrary difficulty to relay/show messages. You just drop messages that their hash doesn't start with the required amount of 0s

Re: Edward Snowden Joins Nostr

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Post by tee_0 »

wkat4242 wrote: post #12
tee_0 wrote: post #4

I’m looking forward to twitter. When they start hosting video in a serious way and also long documents that will be very interesting. I think it’s ironic because all the people defiantly switching to a decentralized platform are just making twitters success more inevitable by drawing attention to platforms that will fail regardless rather than one of twitters serious competitors. The real decentralized system has bee…

> Only nerds will ever use federated, decentralized systems, only nerds will ever accept the trade offs that come with them. Yeah only nerds will ever use email :P

This actually holds true. Email as a way to keep in touch is def not mainstream. Everyone uses Facebook, WhatsApp. Services that are much more streamlined and consumer oriented. And centralized… I think it demonstrates my point.

Re: Edward Snowden Joins Nostr

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Post by throwaway81523 »

drexlspivey wrote: post #13
throwaway81523 wrote: post #2

Tweet text: "One of the cool things about Nostr ("Notes and other stuff transmitted by relays", a new decentralized protocol that replaces things like Twitter and Instagram)—beyond censorship resistance—is that you aren't limited to 280 characters." Sounds like Usenet. What will it do about spam?

Proof of work is integrated in the protocol. Either relays or clients can require arbitrary difficulty to relay/show messages. You just drop messages that their hash doesn't start with the required amount of 0s

That sounds unpromising. Spammers will throw more computational resources than humans are willing to tolerate. They have captcha farms after all. Spammer bot with a server farm (maybe using stolen AWS credentials) will always outcompute a legit user with a mobile phone browser who is only willing to put up with a few seconds of latency.

Re: Edward Snowden Joins Nostr

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Post by FreeTrade »

drexlspivey wrote: post #13
throwaway81523 wrote: post #2

Tweet text: "One of the cool things about Nostr ("Notes and other stuff transmitted by relays", a new decentralized protocol that replaces things like Twitter and Instagram)—beyond censorship resistance—is that you aren't limited to 280 characters." Sounds like Usenet. What will it do about spam?

Proof of work is integrated in the protocol. Either relays or clients can require arbitrary difficulty to relay/show messages. You just drop messages that their hash doesn't start with the required amount of 0s

It's using SHA256 hashing - so ASICs spammers will easily outcompete handhelds or even desktops. It'll need to upgrade to a more CPU friend hash like RandomX for this to have a chance of working.

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Post by anigbrowl »

tee_0 wrote: post #4

I’m looking forward to twitter. When they start hosting video in a serious way and also long documents that will be very interesting. I think it’s ironic because all the people defiantly switching to a decentralized platform are just making twitters success more inevitable by drawing attention to platforms that will fail regardless rather than one of twitters serious competitors. The real decentralized system has bee…

How will it be different from Facebook, other than cosmetically?

Re: Edward Snowden Joins Nostr

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Post by [deleted] »

anigbrowl wrote: post #17
tee_0 wrote: post #4

I’m looking forward to twitter. When they start hosting video in a serious way and also long documents that will be very interesting. I think it’s ironic because all the people defiantly switching to a decentralized platform are just making twitters success more inevitable by drawing attention to platforms that will fail regardless rather than one of twitters serious competitors. The real decentralized system has bee…

How will it be different from Facebook, other than cosmetically?

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Re: Edward Snowden Joins Nostr

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Post by tee_0 »

anigbrowl wrote: post #17
tee_0 wrote: post #4

I’m looking forward to twitter. When they start hosting video in a serious way and also long documents that will be very interesting. I think it’s ironic because all the people defiantly switching to a decentralized platform are just making twitters success more inevitable by drawing attention to platforms that will fail regardless rather than one of twitters serious competitors. The real decentralized system has bee…

How will it be different from Facebook, other than cosmetically?

Does radio ring a bell?

https://youtu.be/fs-YpQj88ew

Tell me how David letterman was wrong and I’ll tell you how you’re wrong. You got triggered by my comment and went through my post history. That’s pathetic

Re: Edward Snowden Joins Nostr

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Post by anigbrowl »

tee_0 wrote: post #19
anigbrowl wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How will it be different from Facebook, other than cosmetically?

Does radio ring a bell? https://youtu.be/fs-YpQj88ew Tell me how David letterman was wrong and I’ll tell you how you’re wrong. You got triggered by my comment and went through my post history. That’s pathetic

No, it doesn't. I asked you how Twitter with longer tweets and long-form video would be different from Facebook, which already has long posts and long-form video.

I am not watching your video as it would be a waste of my time, I have been extremely online since before the WWW existed. I did not get 'triggered' by your comment and have no interest in your post history, and have never interacted with you other that this one question above. You seem to be mixing me up with someone else, and/or imagine yourself to have psychic powers.

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