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Re: AWS Tape Gateway

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> Tape Gateway stores virtual tapes in Amazon S3, Amazon S3 Glacier Flexible Retrieval, and Amazon S3 Glacier Deep Archive, protected by 99.999999999% of durability. That’s a lot of 9s.

Does than mean that you should expect to lose 1 byte for every 100 GB that you store?

The statement is made at an object level typically for AWS

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I use AWS at the companies I work for because of their amazing customer service. I'm fairly critical of Amazon's engineering culture and practices but as a customer I have to admit they are head and shoulders above their competition and frankly most SaaS providers as a whole. They've secured millions of dollars in revenue from me alone just by being so customer friendly.

Yep, that's been my experience as well. AWS (and Amazon as a whole) are bad for the people that work there, but as for their service offerings, it would take GCP and Azure combined to get even close.

That's Amazon in general, it's an effective company from the outside because how it treats the people inside. The customer is everything, and other things are secondary. Including work life balance, employee happiness, burn out...

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Can you? https://aws.amazon.com/snowmobile/faqs/ > Snowmobile does not support data export.

It's confusing. https://aws.amazon.com/snowmobile/ Quickly retrieve data from the cloud whenever you need it. What does it mean?

Perhaps "once we have imported your data, you can quickly retrieve data from the cloud using the regular S3 APIs and fee structure". Or in other words, "there is no special restriction on data added through Snowball".

Feels a bit like intentional misdirection, but it's more likely a case of sloppy writing.

Re: AWS Tape Gateway

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I think if you took a poll of AWS workers you'd find that most enjoy it. The culture leads to a vocal minority who REALLY hate it but my time there was some of the most enjoyable I've ever had. I've worked with some of the smartest people in the tech field, building products from scratch for billion dollar customers and learning every day. I've always told people that it's probably the best place you can start out of…

Amazon is a turn and burn employer at its heart. I've watched dozens of friends and acquaintances work there, rarely making it past 2 years, only to leave for less caustic organization thereafter. Unless your willing to put up with a huge ration of shit on a regular basis, or you make it into management, your time is limited by the up and out mentality of the organization as a whole. Amazon has created the perfect sc…

I can't really speak to amazon retail, but in my 7 odd years in aws I found most people left because

* working in infrastructure means doing a lot not quite so exciting things. most people aren't actually excited by ops, and a lot of your dev work will be on ops. its also the case that ops was historically not as well rewarded, though thats been fixed

* every service needs to be held to the highest tier of operational excellence, and so you can't just chabuduo when things aren't working as well as they should. in the worst case, this means throwing bodies to the ops meatgrinder.

* delivery speed is slowwwww. some of this in endemic to the space, but aws at the end of 2021 (when i left :) ) was a lot slower than than when i joined due to so much risk aversion and bureaucracy

* comp wasn't as good compared many tech peers, and comp could very easily not keep pace if you weren't tippy top every year. this is imo the most self-defeating part of amazon culture as a whole because it incentivizes people rated between ~p10-p20 and p50 to leave.

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> damnit, fine we'll pretend to be a tape library IIRC, they may not be pretending. It's not public knowledge what storage medium AWS glacier is built on, but many speculate it is actually tape.

My knowledge is a decade old, so they very well may be using tape now, but were not originally. At announcement time Glacier was using super dense racks of hard disks but only powering a subset of them. This led to some tape-like behaviors, like your restore request might take a long time to process because your data was likely stored on disks that weren't powered on and you'd need to wait for them to come online.

i'd (probably apocryphally) heard at announcement it was just s3 under the hood to support customers while they built the dataplane out :)

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Yep, that's been my experience as well. AWS (and Amazon as a whole) are bad for the people that work there, but as for their service offerings, it would take GCP and Azure combined to get even close.

I think if you took a poll of AWS workers you'd find that most enjoy it. The culture leads to a vocal minority who REALLY hate it but my time there was some of the most enjoyable I've ever had. I've worked with some of the smartest people in the tech field, building products from scratch for billion dollar customers and learning every day. I've always told people that it's probably the best place you can start out of…

> I think if you took a poll of AWS workers you'd find that most enjoy it.

Isn't the average tenure at Amazon less than 3 years? "Most" of the people who you'd ask would be fresh from the interview rounds and with only one or two performance review rounds under their belt.

Re: AWS Tape Gateway

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> Tape Gateway stores virtual tapes in Amazon S3, Amazon S3 Glacier Flexible Retrieval, and Amazon S3 Glacier Deep Archive, protected by 99.999999999% of durability. That’s a lot of 9s.

It means that 1 bit out of 12.5 GB is not durable. Not a lot if you ask me.

Re: AWS Tape Gateway

#108

Tangent: What's the cheapest way to backup a few TB of personal data these days, pricing based on the premise that I probably will never need to retrieve it (due to local backups as well), but I don't want to pay thousands if I do have to (hundreds would be okay). Glacier Deep Archive?

Emphasis on cheapest, even after their recent price hike you won’t find cheaper than 1fichier

Re: AWS Tape Gateway

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Yep, that's been my experience as well. AWS (and Amazon as a whole) are bad for the people that work there, but as for their service offerings, it would take GCP and Azure combined to get even close.

I think if you took a poll of AWS workers you'd find that most enjoy it. The culture leads to a vocal minority who REALLY hate it but my time there was some of the most enjoyable I've ever had. I've worked with some of the smartest people in the tech field, building products from scratch for billion dollar customers and learning every day. I've always told people that it's probably the best place you can start out of…

Same here (2017-2019). The main reason I left was how much travel I had to do. With a young family at the time I wasn’t going to get those years back.

Re: AWS Tape Gateway

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It's been a long time since I've heard the word "tape" in my circles (I can't get John Cleese's Institute for Backup Trauma out of my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_9wIupr9Hc).

That being said, kudos to Amazon for having a solution for those who aren't in my circles and still use them.

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