Ideally I would prefer working using a language that I am most comfortable with like Nim. The interface with C++ is pretty good. It's also easy to learn and onboard into a team. Wish it was more popular.
The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry
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Re: The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry
#82Does your junior job requires ten years of experience ?
Yes, and it pays 1/3 of what a similar Java or JS job pays.
Re: The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry
#83> Where are all the C++ programmers? People are seemingly scared away from the language by a terrible stigma: the notion that it is a legacy program. I think this is because the pool of jobs for C++ programmers is so small. I took a position as a web dev at a company whose main product was a CAD application. Most of my work was in NodeJS, but occasionally, I'd have to dip into the C/C++ layer to make some API changes…
> I didn't want to be stuck in my 40s-50s with a unless skillset and have to start back from the beginning. This is absolutely nonsensical. In 20 years no one will remember about NodeJS (or it will not be the mainstream tool for web dev), but the C++ CAD application will definitely still be here, in both use and active development, and it will very likely still be in C++. Just think about it. The last C++ CAD applica…
The basic fact that the current internet uses so much NodeJS means that in 20 years it will continue to be in-demand.
Re: The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry
#84I don't know if finance people would consider me "talented", but as a developer who has been using C++ for over a decade, not once in all that time have I ever wanted to work in HFT. I don't know if that's a solvable problem (maybe higher pay? But I hear they pay well already). Or maybe my perspective is an uncommon one. I just think it's silly to say there's a shortage of C++ devs because a specific industry has hir…
Normally it's because you need C++ & OS/Networking & Quantitative skills that makes it a fairly narrow subset
Re: The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry
#85Measuring growth or shrinkage by % seems like an obvious mistake. While I agree from my own anecdotal evidence this is true, the article doesn’t make any substantial case for this (and the quality is overall pretty poor).
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#86C++ is the only language I know where you can think you’ve learned it, then stumble upon a completely alien codebase. The decades-long history of the language has spawned all kinds of dialects and template-powered Lovecraftian horrors.
My dream is to have an AI that automatically unwraps and de-clever's a codebase to something super simple. Completely unrealistic, but even a semi-manual tool I can use on complex chunks would be amazing.
Re: The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry
#87Writing new C++ code with all the modern approaches and tooling doesn't sound so bad. Troubleshooting a big legacy C++ codebase is probably something that Dante would have included in his Inferno as a punishment for pride and hubris.
C++ is legacy. You can't just ignore the fundamentals.
Re: The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry
#88> The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry
> However, only 9.3% of respondents used Rust at all and only 8.8% did so professionally. C++, meanwhile, languished at 48%.
Oh, and don't forget the classic tweet these clickbait bloggers love to quote from official Microsoft Cloud Man, Mark Russinovich......."C++ bad, Rust good".
Re: The pool of talented C++ developers is running dry
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Last time I looked at the finance industry, which was admittedly a while ago, I saw a C++ job that listed the salary as being around $100k. Sounds reasonable. In New York City. Oh . Compare to Google salaries, on levels.fyi for example. I know they're not theoretical or inaccurate because I worked at Google for a while. If you really want to do C++ professionally, that and maybe other FAANG companies seem like they'd…
Salary at an HFT doesnt tell an accurate story. I'd be shocked to learn any quality c++ dev at an HFT pulled down less than 500k last year, and I'd expect most to be well above that.
Maybe they’d have more luck hiring if they told a more accurate story.