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US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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"According to the authorities, the Facebook updates written by the NinjaVideo founder pose a danger to the community." That's so absurd. It's like the 1st Amendment doesn't even exist anymore, or the authorities simply don't care it exists. This is why it's so important to stop the US Government from banning "Twitter propaganda speech" from Middle East, too. If they succeed with that, the next action is doing the sam…

While the motion for reconsideration is probably motivated by her calls to engage the media about her conviction, her posting that she may "shank" her fellow inmates was a great way for her to ensure she get detained as soon as possible.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/78196975/Mtn-Reconsider-Surrndr

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

#42

The interesting thing about Ninja Video is that it was exactly like the netfix-itunes-amazon of the future would do best to look like. The categorization, notes, and search were all fantastic and a huge community of people enthusiastic about the content organically grew around it. All it needed was a few dollars a month subscription fee and it would have dominated the market. The lost opportunity has become a sardoni…

You don't happen to have screenshots, do you? Google image search found nothing.

There's a small screenshot here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/151547/4_sites_to_find_and_wa...

And some waybacks but they don't really show it as it was: http://wayback.archive.org/web/20090601000000*/http://www.ni...

Here's where PC World listed it among it's 2009 100: http://www.pcworld.com/article/174387/2009_pc_world_100_list...

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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Someone should make a short film about this scene, it would go pretty viral.

That would be cool, as long as the 10,000$ license fee for "Happy Birthday" is paid to Warner... See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You

What?! I was reading these comments thinking -- oh that would be funny if everything was under copywrite. I feel violated. The video, if you make it, should end with the fact that it actually is owned by Warner.

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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Convicts sentenced lose a fraction of their rights, including the right to free speech. "Under Turner, prisoner communication may be monitored and regulated, and the content of the communication (i.e., the legal advice) makes no difference in the assessment of the legality of the regulation." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaw_v._Murphy

Is that germane? "[A] decision of the United States Supreme Court rejecting the First Amendment right of prisoners to provide legal assistance to other prisoners." She was sentenced but not yet a prisoner, etc.

And still had her free speech rights. Now she doesn't.

There was nothing illegal about incarcerating her sooner rather than later (this is not commentary on the justness or lack thereof of her sentence).

If one says "fuck you" to the judge, instead of "thank you," one is more likely to hear "well, fuck you," back.

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

#45

The interesting thing about Ninja Video is that it was exactly like the netfix-itunes-amazon of the future would do best to look like. The categorization, notes, and search were all fantastic and a huge community of people enthusiastic about the content organically grew around it. All it needed was a few dollars a month subscription fee and it would have dominated the market. The lost opportunity has become a sardoni…

Those same enthusiastic people are still there steady growing the community. NV was definitely a service that people wanted and were passionate about. If you could pick and choose what TV shows, Movies or any other media were available to you out of the whole catalog of what was out there right now, I'm sure that most people would have paid a subscription to a commercially available service if it was available.

It wouldn't have been allowed to dominate, it would have still been forced to close some sort of way. Before NV, there was Stage6 that provided the same high quality service and it closed up shop.

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

#46
post #41

"According to the authorities, the Facebook updates written by the NinjaVideo founder pose a danger to the community." That's so absurd. It's like the 1st Amendment doesn't even exist anymore, or the authorities simply don't care it exists. This is why it's so important to stop the US Government from banning "Twitter propaganda speech" from Middle East, too. If they succeed with that, the next action is doing the sam…

While the motion for reconsideration is probably motivated by her calls to engage the media about her conviction, her posting that she may "shank" her fellow inmates was a great way for her to ensure she get detained as soon as possible. http://www.scribd.com/doc/78196975/Mtn-Reconsider-Surrndr

Yes, but does Neil H. MacBride or anyone working in his office have a lick of common sense? It seems like people so unable to see things in proper perspective should be prohibited from exercising the legal profession.

"The government cites nothing that warrants reconsideration. Reviewing NinjaVideo’s Facebook page, and a related internet forum, the government finds a woman who is letting off some steam in her online community. In fact, in Ms. Beshara’s post-sentencing musings, she writes (in admittedly colorful language that is fairly common on the internet) to reassure friends and supporters that she will be able to handle serving the twenty-two month sentence. Govt Motion, Exhibit 2. She jokes about maybe losing some weight, picking up a degree, earning pennies making license plates. Id. Reflecting on her actual sentence, she notes that it would be natural to resent the judge that had imposed jail time on her, but she recognizes that she received a relatively lenient sentence. Id. These are not the writings of a defendant who is "likely to flee." Ms. Beshara was writing about serving her sentence, she was retrospective about how it easily could have been worse, how she could have received more jail time. She is preparing to go to jail, not to run from it.

The government does not dispute that Ms. Beshara is not a flight risk. Instead, they present two unpersuasive arguments. First, the government argues that Ms. Beshara poses a danger to the community due to internet postings that the government claims "suggest she may engage in physical violence with her future fellow inmates." Govt Motion at 2. As an initial matter, this is simply not a basis for reconsideration as it is not evidence that Ms. Beshara poses a "danger to the safety of any other person or the community if released." See 18 U.S.C. §3145(a). The government’s position amounts to the bizarre argument that Ms. Beshara should be incarcerated sooner because she will present a danger to "future fellow inmates" once incarcerated. Govt Motion at 2.

Moreover, the postings the government refers to are simply the online bluster of someone who has never spent a moment incarcerated. For example, the government notes Ms. Beshara’s posting that she will "run" her "cell block." Id. at 3. Ms. Beshara won’t even be on a cell block. She is clearly joking, as she jokes about having to make license plates. In fact, subsequent to the posts the government complains about, Ms. Beshara writes, "Nah but seriously guys, this is a sad and tragic situation and I want us to smile and laugh and stay together." See Govt Mtn, Exhibit 3, top of page 3."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/78155255/Beshara-reply-to-Gov-s-Mo...

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

#47

The interesting thing about Ninja Video is that it was exactly like the netfix-itunes-amazon of the future would do best to look like. The categorization, notes, and search were all fantastic and a huge community of people enthusiastic about the content organically grew around it. All it needed was a few dollars a month subscription fee and it would have dominated the market. The lost opportunity has become a sardoni…

You don't happen to have screenshots, do you? Google image search found nothing.

http://icefilms.info is essentially the same thing, layout is basically the same too.

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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post #47

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You don't happen to have screenshots, do you? Google image search found nothing.

http://icefilms.info is essentially the same thing, layout is basically the same too.

Yea, the icefilms main page is pretty much how it looked and just go to ninjavideoforum.net to get an idea of how the forum looked.

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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I'll bite: do you honestly think people should be sent to prison for copyright offences? Monetary damages, yes; bankruptcy, maybe (if the infringement was on mass-scale and resulted in direct profit for the guilty, say, above 1000$); but prison ? Prison is not about punishment, in a civil society; it's about isolating individuals with the potential to irreparably harm their community. Unless the copyright holders go…

Oh god no, definitely not. Monetary damages, yes. Prison sentences for a non-violent crime, definitely not.

Just to play devil's advocate here, what you're saying is that folks like Bernie Madoff should not go to prison.

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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My comment doesn't directly relate to the issue in the article (how she's being put in jail early) but I'll go ahead anyway. Does anyone honestly think piracy should go unpunished? People that upload movies, music, games etc should be punished, as they are doing something illegal and and the people downloading should also be punished as they are getting the content without paying the creators. I'm curious if anyone h…

Picture this for a moment: It's your Birthday. Your friends invited you to the nicest restaurant in town. Very nice venue, food is great. End of meal... time for dessert. Your friends love you and, together, singe you the nicest rendition of 'Happy Birthday To You' you ever heard. Life is good. This was an illegal performance. Secret police comes in, puts your friends in prison (they stole & performed the song) and a…

Except in this case it's more akin to stealing the meal no?
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