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Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by frx »

tapoxi wrote: post #188
agluszak wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Chrome extensions are also thriving Yeah, especially with Manifest v3 :) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/chrome-users-beware-ma...

This post is over a year old. Requiring Manifest v3 has been indefinitely postponed. There are arguments for using Firefox, but if people keep crying wolf about Manifest v3 before it hits and has a negative impact, especially over such a long timespan, it loses its impact.

> Requiring Manifest v3 has been indefinitely postponed.

From docs [1]: "As of January 17, 2022 the Chrome Web Store has stopped accepting new Manifest V2 extensions."

[1]: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/intro/

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by chrismonsanto »

At least for me (Linux, Wayland) it is literally unusable, due to this bug[1] and related issues in the comments. I finally stopped putting up with it and switched to Chrome this year, after being a loyal user since the browser was called Firebird.

In retrospect I should have jumped after Mozilla ruined Firefox on Android.

[1]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1789602

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by bmn__ »

crazygringo wrote: post #142

I love Firefox too but this is a really weird post. The OP is clearly having performance issues with Chrome presumably due to extensions interfering or something else. I can guarantee you that Google makes sure Gmail loads at least as fast in Chrome as in Firefox. Chrome is customizable too (panes you can open/close), Chrome extensions are also thriving, and Chrome was the one who invented the "clean look", same as F…

Yes, I also felt similarly. I guess OP has this overwhelmingly positive opinion and is so easily impressed because his bar of acceptance is so low.

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by thesimp »

starik36 wrote: post #210
marginalia_nu wrote: post #187

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If the buttons are small, they are harder to click. It's also harder to understand what they do, which is important when they have icons that are just cryptic monochrome squiggles. What's the merit in making the buttons unobtrusive? What are you going to do with all those saved pixels? There is no pixel shortage on desktop! That's a mobile design consideration. When the browser is covering a sixth of my screen it's a…

Given this line of thought, why doesn't Firefox put every single icon from the menu on the toolbar. Since there is so much space. My argument is that since those buttons are rarely used, they should be unobtrusive. Looking at my toolbar now, I really don't think they are that small. Just the right size. https://i.imgur.com/wyM9c2k.png

Your toolbar is a nightmare for people that may have some eyesight problems or are not expert FPS shooters in the latest triple A game and miss some mouse dexterity.

What I'm trying to say is that a large surface is good for muscle memory. And I have a lot of pixels to play with, 4k screens are cheap. Of-course programs have to scale between small and (very) big screens, but making everything very small by default is not the way to go.

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

throwaway290 wrote: post #192
silon42 wrote: post #160

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I used to use it, until I wrote my own vertical tabs extension, which acceptably handles thousands of tabs...

Safari has vertical tabs natively now. The interesting part is hierarchical tabs

It's the hierarchical tabs that I need. If you are traversing large hypertexts you need to keep track of where you are and where you were.

Middle-clicking to open-in-new-tab together with Tree-Style-Tabs is incredibly useful in this scenario.

You can rapidly open a large number of potentially-interesting links in tabs, and then weed out the ones you don't need just as rapidly. Then wash, rinse, repeat. It's an assembly line approach.

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by rrishi »

Vinnl wrote: post #49

> I'd be glad to learn of any other cool features and extensions that y'all might want to share. I'm sure others will be sharing it as I type this comment as well, but for many HN readers, Multi-Account Containers [1] are bound to be a godsend. Easily log in to different accounts for any website, in different tabs. Great feature that's not available in other browsers. [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/mult…

Oh that's definitely a use case that had arisen in my workflow. I'll be sure to check it out. Thanks!

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by OrbiterToad »

aliqot wrote: post #253
thiht wrote: post #248

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> Firefox invented tabs Wow, that's false. Firefox was NOT the first browser with tabs. From the top of my head, Opera had tabs before Firefox, confirmed by a quick Google search. And apparently Opera wasn't the first browser with tabs either, although it was probably the first browser with a significant market share with tabs. Also tabs were not invented by any browser, other programs used to have tabs before it was…

simplebrowser had them before opera

dont know what kind of googling prodigies you are, but I googled 'first browser with tabs' and it says the InternetWorks Browser was the first

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by waz0wski »

VyseofArcadia wrote: post #223
Vinnl wrote: post #49

> I'd be glad to learn of any other cool features and extensions that y'all might want to share. I'm sure others will be sharing it as I type this comment as well, but for many HN readers, Multi-Account Containers [1] are bound to be a godsend. Easily log in to different accounts for any website, in different tabs. Great feature that's not available in other browsers. [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/mult…

I can't imagine browsing the web without MAC and Temporary Containers. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con... It's sort of like everything opens in a private browsing window, except the stuff I've whitelisted.

One more extension related to container management - https://github.com/kintesh/containerise

This lets you set regex/wildcard to contain subdomain or redirect happy sites into a single container

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