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US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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My comment doesn't directly relate to the issue in the article (how she's being put in jail early) but I'll go ahead anyway. Does anyone honestly think piracy should go unpunished? People that upload movies, music, games etc should be punished, as they are doing something illegal and and the people downloading should also be punished as they are getting the content without paying the creators. I'm curious if anyone h…

People might not agree with every law in their country.

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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My comment doesn't directly relate to the issue in the article (how she's being put in jail early) but I'll go ahead anyway. Does anyone honestly think piracy should go unpunished? People that upload movies, music, games etc should be punished, as they are doing something illegal and and the people downloading should also be punished as they are getting the content without paying the creators. I'm curious if anyone h…

As long as it is illegal, it is technically correct for them to be punished. Some laws, however, are too absurd to remain. Piracy, for me is certainly not about not wanting to pay. It's about the feeling that the money I pay mostly doesn't go to creators, but to the companies in-between who doesn't deserve it. I don't want to support such an industry. It also the fact that I want to push for legal alternatives which…

Isn't it up to the creators to fight for more compensation? We, as consumers, shouldn't be justifying our actions by picking up a fight we were never asked to join. We've provided the technology to circumvent the middlemen, proven its preference among users. However, as it stands now, less money goes to the creators when you pirate than when you play by their game. Don't claim to be fighting in their name.

I agree, though, that this industry is rotten... A pirated copy of any game, music, or video is not only cheaper and more convenient, but its of better quality (DRM-free). You can't win a fight where you attack both pirates and consumers.

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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"According to the authorities, the Facebook updates written by the NinjaVideo founder pose a danger to the community." That's so absurd. It's like the 1st Amendment doesn't even exist anymore, or the authorities simply don't care it exists. This is why it's so important to stop the US Government from banning "Twitter propaganda speech" from Middle East, too. If they succeed with that, the next action is doing the sam…

Convicts sentenced lose a fraction of their rights, including the right to free speech.

"Under Turner, prisoner communication may be monitored and regulated, and the content of the communication (i.e., the legal advice) makes no difference in the assessment of the legality of the regulation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaw_v._Murphy

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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My comment doesn't directly relate to the issue in the article (how she's being put in jail early) but I'll go ahead anyway. Does anyone honestly think piracy should go unpunished? People that upload movies, music, games etc should be punished, as they are doing something illegal and and the people downloading should also be punished as they are getting the content without paying the creators. I'm curious if anyone h…

Regarding the "illegal downloading" point, simple question: how do you recognize when the music, movie, photograph, or text that you downloaded (or viewed in browser -- there's no technical difference) has been "properly" licensed?

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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My comment doesn't directly relate to the issue in the article (how she's being put in jail early) but I'll go ahead anyway. Does anyone honestly think piracy should go unpunished? People that upload movies, music, games etc should be punished, as they are doing something illegal and and the people downloading should also be punished as they are getting the content without paying the creators. I'm curious if anyone h…

Picture this for a moment: It's your Birthday. Your friends invited you to the nicest restaurant in town. Very nice venue, food is great. End of meal... time for dessert. Your friends love you and, together, singe you the nicest rendition of 'Happy Birthday To You' you ever heard. Life is good. This was an illegal performance. Secret police comes in, puts your friends in prison (they stole & performed the song) and a…

Someone should make a short film about this scene, it would go pretty viral.

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As long as it is illegal, it is technically correct for them to be punished. Some laws, however, are too absurd to remain. Piracy, for me is certainly not about not wanting to pay. It's about the feeling that the money I pay mostly doesn't go to creators, but to the companies in-between who doesn't deserve it. I don't want to support such an industry. It also the fact that I want to push for legal alternatives which…

Isn't it up to the creators to fight for more compensation? We, as consumers, shouldn't be justifying our actions by picking up a fight we were never asked to join. We've provided the technology to circumvent the middlemen, proven its preference among users. However, as it stands now, less money goes to the creators when you pirate than when you play by their game. Don't claim to be fighting in their name. I agree, t…

Well, personally I choose not to consume such content at all in most cases, but I sympathize with those who do pirate. If the artist get 5% of what I paid, and the rest of the money goes to those who promote SOPA, I'd rather torrent it. This is better in the long run, and I hope future creators will agree.

Those who lose are the current artists who remain with the big companies. Hopefully, they'll find a way out of that system.

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Picture this for a moment: It's your Birthday. Your friends invited you to the nicest restaurant in town. Very nice venue, food is great. End of meal... time for dessert. Your friends love you and, together, singe you the nicest rendition of 'Happy Birthday To You' you ever heard. Life is good. This was an illegal performance. Secret police comes in, puts your friends in prison (they stole & performed the song) and a…

Someone should make a short film about this scene, it would go pretty viral.

That would be cool, as long as the 10,000$ license fee for "Happy Birthday" is paid to Warner...

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You

Re: US Authorities Silence NinjaVideo Founder, Rush Her to Prison

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post #12

RIP free speech.

Did you read the article, or are you just commenting based on the misleading headline?

I did, yes. Also this one: http://prospect.org/article/ninja-our-sites

And this one: http://torrentfreak.com/ninjavideo-founder-sentenced-to-22-m...

And this one: http://www.app.com/article/20120113/NJNEWS10/301130030/-Quee...

And here are the sentencing memo, the government's motion for reconsideration of self-surrender, and the response to the government's motion for reconsideration of self-surrender: http://www.scribd.com/doc/77698613/Beshara-gov-Sentencing-Me...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/78155255/Beshara-reply-to-Gov-s-Mo...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/78155260/Beshara-motion-for-Recons...

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