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Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by gbil »

Time for my rant as a Firefox user since the beta Phoenix versions, stating that I'm a daily MacOS and Android tablet user

* Firefox uses much more battery on MacOS than any chromium based browser. Bugzilla ticket exists since ages, few things have change

* Firefox on Android tablet after the change to Fenix is a stretched phone browser, with no tabs support, no default desktop support. Firefox developers treat this as a ER instead of bug totally ignoring that it was there before and they dropped it, no development whatsoever

At the same time, Firefox history sync is like no other but balancing what I care for the most, I had to drop firefox after literally decades and every now and then I look if at least there is something on the tablet support, hoping that I'll be able to change back at some point

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by rideontime »

onion2k wrote: post #23
loa_in_ wrote: post #13

I love Firefox but some JS heavy demos etc. just don't work fast enough. I hate that I know exactly why. It's because they were only ever tested on Chrome during development.

It's interesting that you put the blame for the slowness on Firefox. I blame web developers for failing to build things for browsers rather than just Chrome.

This isn't blaming Firefox any more than one would blame other web browsers for a bad enterprise app requiring Internet Explorer, it's just the sad reality that users have to deal with.

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by drita »

nend wrote: post #9

I just switched back to chrome for the same reason. Every page in Firefox was taking 60+second to load. Tried it on chrome and pages were loading instantly. I had originally switched to Firefox for privacy concerns but that and the memory usage/occasional crashing were too much for me. edit: not sure what the downvotes are for. I'm glad there's a second option out there. It didn't work for me but figured it was worth…

60+ seconds seems really odd. It sounds like less of a rendering issue and more like some more fundamental technical problem. Have you tried all the usual things, e.g. reinstalling, previous versions, etc.?

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by BeefWellington »

wsgeorge wrote: post #3

Firefox was my go-to 3 years ago because it was just lighter than Chrome (and easier on my battery). I still hate the fact that different browser profiles and profile switching aren't surfaced like they are in Chrome. I think it's such a major use case for modern web browsing, I find it hard to believe they aren't prioritizing it. (FWIW this isn't even supported in Safari, which I would have preferred using) I still…

I hear you on profiles. My go-to for this is to use firejail or podman to keep truly separate browsers on all my alternate profiles.

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by zeendo »

onion2k wrote: post #23
loa_in_ wrote: post #13

I love Firefox but some JS heavy demos etc. just don't work fast enough. I hate that I know exactly why. It's because they were only ever tested on Chrome during development.

It's interesting that you put the blame for the slowness on Firefox. I blame web developers for failing to build things for browsers rather than just Chrome.

Which part of their comment reads as blaming Firefox?

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by throwaway290 »

aldanor wrote: post #14

Been on Firefox for many years for one reason only - TreeStyle Tab. Once other browsers implement it, if ever, would consider jumping ship. Orion has something similar, but it's a baby version of that, really...

I had to switch to Sidebery after some bugs with TST (broken hierarchy, etc.).

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by rrishi »

low_tech_love wrote: post #21

Just tangentially related, but on Windows I find that Edge is way faster than Chrome nowadays. No idea why, and it feels stupid to even consider it, but the difference is staggering.

I did try Edge a couple of years ago and I would agree with your observation too. I just didn't stick with Edge and came back to for some reason that is escaping me right now.

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by catfishx »

nend wrote: post #9

I just switched back to chrome for the same reason. Every page in Firefox was taking 60+second to load. Tried it on chrome and pages were loading instantly. I had originally switched to Firefox for privacy concerns but that and the memory usage/occasional crashing were too much for me. edit: not sure what the downvotes are for. I'm glad there's a second option out there. It didn't work for me but figured it was worth…

I think you got confused here, OP had the exact opposite experience

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by qbasic_forever »

Your Gmail/Google cookies are probably in a weird state with chrome. Clear the cache and all saved cookies (will log you out of every site fyi) and I bet it will load right up again.

But all that said, yes, Firefox is very good. I wish it was a little more bleeding edge with stuff like experimental web standards (native filesystem access, USB, etc.) but I still use it for most of my browsing.

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