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To my grandparents / great grandparents generation at the time (70/80's) TV has become the world's nanny would have generated all the same comments as this. If you watched tv - the idiotbox - for more than 15 minutes your eyes would go square.
Nope, nope nope. My kid is 10 and still doesn't know a single Youtuber by name and doesn't really watch Youtube. We did try Youtube Kids at one point, but it was just 99% toy ads masquerading as authentic content. Netflix has a pretty good age limiter and well produced TV-shows. Disney+ has Bluey and a ton of other content. AppleTV+ has a few good ones too, but not as much as the two big ones. Paying the few coins fo…
but is there any better alternative?
Netflix and Disney+ have good content, you pay for it and they give you content. There is no parasocial relationship or algorithmic suggestions that direct the user to a dark hole of exploitative content.
Most countries have a PBS equivalent, a non-commercial public broadcast channel that produces quality content without.
I physically removed our only television from the lounge to behind some furniture because our eldest (who was 6) was behaving more and more like a drug addict: alternating wheedling, begging, pleading, shouting, to get television. Once I did that, and he saw it really wasn't an option, he changed quite quickly - after around 3 months - and we have it back now, although there's no screen time except weekends (or if so…
I admit that the never ending algorithm of YouTube is problematic, but your point about kids fixating on things highlights it is nothing new. When I was a kid it was TV and video games. We had rules about when both could be used, and they were often taken away as punishments. As we got older, my siblings and I had full on fights over who got the use the phone and when. My point is YT is just another thing parents nee…
Yet another thing. We manage it by not allowing any use of it.
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I’m also horrified by the responses of parents here who are lax with YouTube, even to a slight degree. It’s like they feel that they are morally bound to find a middle-ground stance despite not having a good mechanistic explanation for why YT is OK even at small dosages, given how it has already radicalized people and impacted the global political order on the basis of fake news? Why isn’t the concern far more sweepi…
It seems like YT's horde of psychiatrists has tapped into parents' minds as well, so they are programmed into believing they can't downshift in any aspect of their lives and won't sacrifice shit to actually pay attention to their very own children, because: work, money, stress, no time, no energy. Better let YouTube take care of them. Society is fucked.
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Terribly sorry that giving a shit about raising our kids is offensive to you. I'd invite you to spend some time considering the difference between legacy childrens entertainment media and an algorithmically driven platform that has, at best, meagre ex-post-facto content moderation.
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The "solution" is to not expose them to YouTube in the first place. Worked so far, for several families I know.
And/or be “the bad guy” who implements rules and limits
We found that no amount of supervision or curation by adults keeps the child completely away from this harmful content. And the YouTube Kids thing is not offered in our region. For us the only solution was to ban YouTube entirely and it’s one of the best decisions we ever made.
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You will never be _sure_ that it's limited to that age range, because what's appropriate for a given age is pretty subjective. I don't know why people are obsessed with making perfectly isolated bubbles for kids, it's just not possible.
Because internet consumption has addictive properties that can negatively impact the cognitive development of a child regardless of age range? Gosh, I feel so irresponsible for intervening with the kind of information that children consume. Perhaps it’s better I expose them to alcohol and drugs sooner than later!
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But do you watch YouTube or use screens around him? That's my problem with the advice to limit screen time. Why should I be telling my child not to do something that everyone around him is doing?
> But do you watch YouTube I do sometimes, although nothing he can see. > Why should I be telling my child not to do something that everyone around him is doing Me doing something isn't the same as "everyone around him". If you refactor that to reflect reality, you get "Why should I be telling my child not to do something that I am doing?" Then my answer is: they're a child. Not an adult. I don't let my son drive, ev…
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9-11 To be clear, we were strict up until the pandemic when we let things slide. Then all the friends were on messenger and if that's the only source of socializing, well ok. We didn't have YT on the tablet, but through ad clicking she discovered it would sometimes open in the browser, then she just figured out how the browser works. I'd say there was close to a year of virtually unfettered access, up to 2 hours a da…
Curious about the use of the word messenger. Do you mean Facebook's Messenger? Isn't that only for age 13 and over?
If your child has their own tablet set to their age, sure, but I know plenty of people who just let the kids use Mom's iPad