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YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by einherjae »

daveslash wrote: post #2

Re >> " Plenty of parents have the same debate in their own minds, or with partners and friends: Is letting kids use screens all right, and if so for how long? " As an anecdote, my mom would only allow me 15 minutes at a time of Tetris on the household GameBoy. My views on kids & screentime is pretty conservative, especially when they're younger, but my mom was down-right draconian!

And your GameBoy wasn’t designed with psychiatrists on the team to improve the addictiveness/retention/click-rate.

It’s important to remember that todays screens aren’t the screens of yore, but quite a lot more devious. It’s fairly obvious that any negative impact of that would be larger on impressionable young minds.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by sgt »

alexashka wrote: post #19

'Smart'-phones have become defacto pacifiers for teenagers and adults alike. Children are merely imitating adult behaviour. If you don't want your kids pacified their entire lives, make sure you're not pacified yourself first.

And it continues into adulthood. Millions of adults being swallowed up in YouTube and streaming services for hours every day. Why bother to go outside? That can't be good either.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by shmde »

daveslash wrote: post #2

Re >> " Plenty of parents have the same debate in their own minds, or with partners and friends: Is letting kids use screens all right, and if so for how long? " As an anecdote, my mom would only allow me 15 minutes at a time of Tetris on the household GameBoy. My views on kids & screentime is pretty conservative, especially when they're younger, but my mom was down-right draconian!

Yeah kind of a similar story. We had our access to PC revoked when we were 10 because we did not switch off our Rollercoaster tycoon 2 session at 9PM.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by einherjae »

watwut wrote: post #23

If I have to sum up everything about kid related entertainment I have read on here, it would be: - Games of the kind we have played or we like to play now are good. - The new markets kind of games are totally worst thing ever and steal money. - Arcades and collectible card games we used to spend all our money into were totally different thing. - The kiddy shows we grew up with were best thing ever. Nothing beats them…

Hypocrisy in itself doesn’t invalidate the point about the modern entertainment stuff being problematic. Even if what we grew up with had its own problems.

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Post by givemeethekeys »

daveslash wrote: post #2

Re >> " Plenty of parents have the same debate in their own minds, or with partners and friends: Is letting kids use screens all right, and if so for how long? " As an anecdote, my mom would only allow me 15 minutes at a time of Tetris on the household GameBoy. My views on kids & screentime is pretty conservative, especially when they're younger, but my mom was down-right draconian!

I've found over and over again that prohibition and punishment tend to backfire. Children and adults need a reason so compelling that it will inspire them to not pursue cheap thrills at the expense of something better. Otherwise, they'll take up drinking, watching TV, eating way too much junk food and masturbating. Why shouldn't they? They feel really good!

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by [deleted] »

nmfisher wrote: post #18

As a new(ish) parent, I'm astonished at how readily most parents hand off their kids over to YouTube/tablet/phone. I even saw a stroller the other day with a permanent mount for the phone. I haven't banned YouTube (yet), but I have limited it almost completely due to concerns about the long-term effects of extended use from such an early age. Those concerns will only deepen as my son gets older - there's a lot of goo…

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Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by einherjae »

jahsome wrote: post #27
gambiting wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>My kid is 10 and still doesn't know a single Youtuber by name Authentic curiosity - does your child not go to a normal school? In my experience you can literally detach your home from the internet and live without electricity, but the second your kids go to school they instantly know all the latest fads and videos and what not. To make it to 10 without being at least somewhat familiar with youtube through that expo…

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One can be right and pretentious at the same time.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by jahsome »

watwut wrote: post #23

If I have to sum up everything about kid related entertainment I have read on here, it would be: - Games of the kind we have played or we like to play now are good. - The new markets kind of games are totally worst thing ever and steal money. - Arcades and collectible card games we used to spend all our money into were totally different thing. - The kiddy shows we grew up with were best thing ever. Nothing beats them…

The most unbelievable thing about this site is to me the inability of users to recognize their language and aversion to, well, everything, is the same carbon copied rhetoric every generation has used to deride the technological Boogeyman of the day.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by thih9 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #3

Nope, nope nope. My kid is 10 and still doesn't know a single Youtuber by name and doesn't really watch Youtube. We did try Youtube Kids at one point, but it was just 99% toy ads masquerading as authentic content. Netflix has a pretty good age limiter and well produced TV-shows. Disney+ has Bluey and a ton of other content. AppleTV+ has a few good ones too, but not as much as the two big ones. Paying the few coins fo…

> We did try Youtube Kids at one point, but it was just 99% toy ads masquerading as authentic content.

To be fair, this description fits a lot of regular (non-kids) platforms too.

Re: YouTube has become the world's nanny

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Post by peepee1982 »

arcturus17 wrote: post #14

Yea I don’t have kids but I’ve seen it with all kids in my extended family. I like Youtube, there is content of tremendous value, for knowledge and entertainment. However, one thing I’ve personally observed is that too much of it can destroy your focus and motivation. There is some science in there about brain chemistry and reward systems, in line with what some pop scientists with Cal Newport and Andrew Huberman are…

I'd think a kid's brain's malleability is reason to limit bottomless pits even more strictly.

As a father of three I know it's not always convenient. But kids usually find something else to do at some point. It's just really grating to wait that long.

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