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Re: The 27th Letter

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ASCII is so bloated that it even has a ligature from a dead language.

It’s used in English, which as far as I’m aware isn’t dead.

Opportunistically and not out of necessity, I think. As far as I know all it means is “and.”

If any word deserves a character, it’s “the.”

Re: The 27th Letter

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s used in English, which as far as I’m aware isn’t dead.

Opportunistically and not out of necessity, I think. As far as I know all it means is “and.” If any word deserves a character, it’s “the.”

It’s used as a symbol in programming, I have a hard time imagining a symbol that could replace “the”. That’s not to say there isn’t one that would be suitable, I just lack the creativity or imagination to think of one.

Re: The 27th Letter

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s used in English, which as far as I’m aware isn’t dead.

Opportunistically and not out of necessity, I think. As far as I know all it means is “and.” If any word deserves a character, it’s “the.”

I believe "yͤ" is the character you desire. [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_articles#Ye_form

Re: The 27th Letter

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ASCII is so bloated that it even has a ligature from a dead language.

Ampersand is really not dead - I use it quite regularly. I always sign cards from me and the wife as x & y. It is shift 7 on a en_GB keyboard

English also used to have the letter thorne. It looks quite a lot like a Y or y and leads to the notion that "Ye olde shoppe" is NOT pronounced as "the old shop". Here the the would probably have a long e so "thee". Modern thornes look more like a d - see Icelandic for example. See wikipedia for the full run down.

I still see r written as a sort of squiggly mess rotated 45 degrees. Mostly by the generation before mine (I'm 53). A lowercase s used to be written looking like f with the crossbar missing.

I suspect the kids might have said: "et per se and" or "ut ..." and then that collapsed into "and per se and" -> ampers& (yes I have seen that monstrosity used in anger)!

Re: The 27th Letter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Opportunistically and not out of necessity, I think. As far as I know all it means is “and.” If any word deserves a character, it’s “the.”

It’s used as a symbol in programming, I have a hard time imagining a symbol that could replace “the”. That’s not to say there isn’t one that would be suitable, I just lack the creativity or imagination to think of one.

The use in programming is also just a result of it being available. It’s a great fit for binary AND, logical AND, but there’s countless symbols that we just assign to operators because they’re available.

Re: The 27th Letter

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ASCII is so bloated that it even has a ligature from a dead language.

> ASCII is so bloated that it even has a ligature from a dead language.

It was actually an english letter (at least as recently as the late 19th Century), considered part of the alphabet; its current name being a corruption of the end of the alphabet recitation including it, “... and, per se and”.

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