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Ask HN: Recruiters have stopped contacting me? What could have happened?

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Re: Ask HN: Recruiters have stopped contacting me? What could have happened?

#21
I imagine it could be for many reasons, one, which other people have mentioned, is simply the seasonality and cyclicality of recruiting. These things can literally change over the matter of weeks so I wouldn't sweat it too much. The other potential reason, and admittedly the one that might be more cause for alarm, is the fact that there are many layoffs going on so there is a supply of engineers hitting the market . Based on my own anecdata, I don't think there's a reason to freak out. It could very well be that there is more supply than there was before, but the hiring market is still quite strong and there are roles out there. You just need to keep looking and connecting. I know that a lot of people like to rag on recruiters ( myself included) and there are a lot of annoying recruiters out there because there is such a low barrier to entry, but every once in a while you will come across a very helpful and industrious recruiter. They're usually happy to jump on the phone and you can view it as an opportunity for you to get information from them. Ask them what they're seeing in the market, which places are hiring, what roles are they seeing? A lot of demand for, etc. Never hurts to establish a relationship, assuming they aren't an annoying recruiter, that is going to pester you. And if you do establish a relationship with such a recruiter, you can send them your resume and give them an open mandate to search for a role for you, or have you in mind when one comes across that fits your criteria.

I have a bunch of other thoughts. Happy to chat or hop on a call if you're looking for some feedback (no, I'm not a recruiter). My email is in my profile.

Re: Ask HN: Recruiters have stopped contacting me? What could have happened?

#22
The tech bubble is bursting, did you miss the memo? Even after the recent dead cat bounce, FAANG stocks are down 30%+ with their revenue growth collapsing and they are laying off workers, and it's a whole lot worse for all the non-profitable zombie companies that have been surviving solely on ZIRP and Quantitative Easing absurdly loose financial conditions that have come to an abrupt halt.

Naive investors in the tech bubble forgot the hotdog stand problem: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4558508-what-hotdog-vendors... so many got burned and they aren't coming back any time soon.

Re: Ask HN: Recruiters have stopped contacting me? What could have happened?

#23

Been "looking" since November. I'm still averaging 1 recruiter message every few days on LinkedIn, but 95% of them are from agencies with vague pitches for contract roles I'm not interested in. The daily messages I used to get from recruiters hiring directly for permanent positions at medium-to-large US tech companies dried up sometime last year. I'm applying directly to open roles on those companies' websites instea…

Yeah that sounds pretty close to what my experience has been recently. The most disheartening part so far has been getting ATS-rejected from a job, only to see the same job freshly posted again a few weeks later.

Re: Ask HN: Recruiters have stopped contacting me? What could have happened?

#24
Well, if you have been to mars or other side of the moon for last few months, things have changed on the market and maybe its a time for a bit less arrogance now and starting to show actual interest. People who look like they actually want job have priority, and there is plenty to choose from.

Also 5 years is nothing and still in +-junior category unless you are top 1% of devs but then we wouldn't be reading this. Nobody wants juniors when times are not OK, for very good reasons.

TBH this is a bit surreal read and shows how entitled some software devs are, I'm keeping it polite but it ain't easy. Maybe whole field needs some hard reset and align it more with rest of engineering.

Re: Ask HN: Recruiters have stopped contacting me? What could have happened?

#25

The tech bubble is bursting, did you miss the memo? Even after the recent dead cat bounce, FAANG stocks are down 30%+ with their revenue growth collapsing and they are laying off workers, and it's a whole lot worse for all the non-profitable zombie companies that have been surviving solely on ZIRP and Quantitative Easing absurdly loose financial conditions that have come to an abrupt halt. Naive investors in the tech…

> dead cat bounce

I’m not following the analogy here. What is a dead cat bounce - does it describe the stock curve?

Re: Ask HN: Recruiters have stopped contacting me? What could have happened?

#26

I've been doing this stuff professionally for 40 years. Never used a recruiter once. On either side of the trade.

I suppose it's good to know that one can successfully obtain employment without the use of a recruiter, but how is this responsive to OP's question?

Not the person you're replying to but I would guess since the OP is concerned about not getting contacted by recruiters, I would assume he is looking for work and can't find it via the recruiter route. The alternative is talk to people you've worked with before and ask them if they are hiring at their company. If you did good work with them and there is indeed an opening, that's another avenue to find work.

I also haven't landed work via recruiters since probably ~2001 but have worked the entire time.

Re: Ask HN: Recruiters have stopped contacting me? What could have happened?

#27

The tech bubble is bursting, did you miss the memo? Even after the recent dead cat bounce, FAANG stocks are down 30%+ with their revenue growth collapsing and they are laying off workers, and it's a whole lot worse for all the non-profitable zombie companies that have been surviving solely on ZIRP and Quantitative Easing absurdly loose financial conditions that have come to an abrupt halt. Naive investors in the tech…

> dead cat bounce I’m not following the analogy here. What is a dead cat bounce - does it describe the stock curve?

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deadcatbounce.asp

> A dead cat bounce is a temporary, short-lived recovery of asset prices from a prolonged decline or a bear market that is followed by the continuation of the downtrend. Frequently, downtrends are interrupted by brief periods of recovery—or small rallies—during which prices temporarily rise.

> The name "dead cat bounce" is based on the notion that even a dead cat will bounce if it falls far enough and fast enough. It is an example of a sucker's rally.

Re: Ask HN: Recruiters have stopped contacting me? What could have happened?

#28

The tech bubble is bursting, did you miss the memo? Even after the recent dead cat bounce, FAANG stocks are down 30%+ with their revenue growth collapsing and they are laying off workers, and it's a whole lot worse for all the non-profitable zombie companies that have been surviving solely on ZIRP and Quantitative Easing absurdly loose financial conditions that have come to an abrupt halt. Naive investors in the tech…

> dead cat bounce I’m not following the analogy here. What is a dead cat bounce - does it describe the stock curve?

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Re: Ask HN: Recruiters have stopped contacting me? What could have happened?

#29

The tech bubble is bursting, did you miss the memo? Even after the recent dead cat bounce, FAANG stocks are down 30%+ with their revenue growth collapsing and they are laying off workers, and it's a whole lot worse for all the non-profitable zombie companies that have been surviving solely on ZIRP and Quantitative Easing absurdly loose financial conditions that have come to an abrupt halt. Naive investors in the tech…

> dead cat bounce I’m not following the analogy here. What is a dead cat bounce - does it describe the stock curve?

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deadcatbounce.asp

"if you throw it out the top floor window, even a dead cat would bounce". I shouldn't use the phrase though, as I'm actually very fond of cats. I think it's an example of society's bias against cats. If it were called "dead dog bounce" it would likely be taboo

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