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Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by shilgapira »

blhack wrote: post #76
DebtDeflation wrote: post #22

An endless loop of AI generated content that gets posted to the web as original human generated content, with LLMs getting re-trained on this content and spitting out more content that also gets re-posted, resulting in a cesspool of BS masquerading as organic knowledge. I'm old enough to remember when Google provided meaningful search results rather than just SEO spam, the problem is about to get an order of magnitud…

You could call it: "AI Kessler syndrome". The internet becomes so full of hallucinating AI output that it becomes impossible to train the model.

This is a brilliant analogy

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by beezlewax »

dheera wrote: post #37
SinePost wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point. I was already concerned about people's reliance on Google's zero-click answers as the deepest level of inquiry before ChatGPT hit the scene. ChatGPT feels like a multiplier of this convenience factor, being also slightly more specific and generally more consistent.

There's also just that Google's search ranking doesn't work anymore. I searched "lowest temperatures in boston every year" and got some shit-looking MySpace-like website with a table of temperatures, hell knows where it got its data, instead of a link to the correct page on NOAA or something more authoritative.

Full of Google ads probably

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by buzzerbetrayed »

danielvaughn wrote: post #80
DebtDeflation wrote: post #22

An endless loop of AI generated content that gets posted to the web as original human generated content, with LLMs getting re-trained on this content and spitting out more content that also gets re-posted, resulting in a cesspool of BS masquerading as organic knowledge. I'm old enough to remember when Google provided meaningful search results rather than just SEO spam, the problem is about to get an order of magnitud…

I don't have much knowledge around AI, but from what I can tell, it's dependent on inputs from across the web right? If so, then as the use of ChatGPT grows, it'll slowly get consumed back into the model. With enough iterations, it will start to veer more and more away from recognizable human speech/thought, like a recursive game of telephone. Unless I'm completely misunderstanding how ML works, which very well may b…

Unless it only reconsumes the “good” content. In other words, the stuff that got good reactions from humans. In which case, it will get better, not worse, at least at generating clickbait. But at least it will be coherent clickbait.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by mrtksn »

blhack wrote: post #76
DebtDeflation wrote: post #22

An endless loop of AI generated content that gets posted to the web as original human generated content, with LLMs getting re-trained on this content and spitting out more content that also gets re-posted, resulting in a cesspool of BS masquerading as organic knowledge. I'm old enough to remember when Google provided meaningful search results rather than just SEO spam, the problem is about to get an order of magnitud…

You could call it: "AI Kessler syndrome". The internet becomes so full of hallucinating AI output that it becomes impossible to train the model.

So the first one takes it all?

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by lcampbell »

akaike wrote: post #73
qsort wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see this take a lot and I don't get why this is different from what we have right now. > Unlimited 24/7 AI streamers on Twitch. So basically Twitch as it is? > Unlimited 24/7 AI TV shows and movies (RIP Netflix, Hollywood). Which is TV right now? > Unlimited AI opinions about any topics. Welcome to Twitter. You filter in the same way people always have. Studying, learning, acquiring taste.

I think you missed the point that he/she means AI TV and AI Twitch, not Human TV and Human Twitch, or whatever you want to call it. The point is that the content will be 24/7 AI-generated

I believe GP is referring to the multiple AI-driven vtubers on Twitch (vedal987 and motherv3 I think?). They're not yet 24/7 because they still require human supervision for reasons -- vedal987 was recently banned for holocaust denial, IIRC.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by capableweb »

TIPSIO wrote: post #83
blhack wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could call it: "AI Kessler syndrome". The internet becomes so full of hallucinating AI output that it becomes impossible to train the model.

Or, the singularity.

That would be something else, like if someone built a Chat GPT that could train itself and it starts learning at an exponential rate, and learning how to make itself unstoppable by humans.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by skybrian »

px43 wrote: post #58

Imagine a world where the only content you see is from publishers that you trust, and that your friends trust, and their friends, to maybe 4 or 5 hops or so, and the feed was weighted by how much they are trusted by your particular social graph. If you start seeing spammy content, you downvote it, and your trust level from that part of your social graph drops, and they are less likely to be able to publish things tha…

Trust is not transitive. My friends reshare all sort of crazy memes, and their friends are even worse.

Just because you know someone doesn't mean they're good at reading the news or understanding what's going on in the world.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by chinchilla2020 »

px43 wrote: post #58

Imagine a world where the only content you see is from publishers that you trust, and that your friends trust, and their friends, to maybe 4 or 5 hops or so, and the feed was weighted by how much they are trusted by your particular social graph. If you start seeing spammy content, you downvote it, and your trust level from that part of your social graph drops, and they are less likely to be able to publish things tha…

That's what I've been feeling. Web3 is the organic web. Where we add back weight to transactions and build a noise threshold that drowns the spammers and SEOs.

I always envisioned it requiring some sort of micropayments or government-issued web identity certificates.

Everyone complaining about bubbles needs to realize that echo chambers are another issue entirely. Inorganic and organic content both create bubbles. We are talking about real/notreal instead of credible/notcredible

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by hackernewds »

labrador wrote: post #79

I made this comment on a post that got flagged for reasons I don't understand. I don't want to feel like I wasted my time so I'm re-commenting here: I was watching "HyperNormalisation" by Adam Curtis for the second time. In his segment on Eliza, an early example of a chat bot, I realized that Curtis makes a mistake in his interpretation of Eliza. For Curtis it's narcissism that makes Eliza attractive. Curtis levels t…

This is the opposite read. ChatGPT is mainly being used to relieve of low level thinking. Not to indulge in it.
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