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Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by shiredude95 »

TIPSIO wrote: post #31

Unlimited 24/7 AI streamers on Twitch. Unlimited 24/7 AI TV shows and movies (RIP Netflix, Hollywood). Unlimited AI opinions about any topics. Unlimited AI “grassroots” campaigns. Unlimited AI propaganda from every country and military (perfectly chosen each time). Unlimited AI comments, “friends”, and engagements on every social media platform for your posts. The bigger struggle will be for discovering authenticity…

Will be interesting to see what the post-AI movement will look like. I imagine some subscription service by a company that provides "authentic human generated consumable media" which has everything you listed from songs/tv/movies/news etc created by humans. I can see the early adopters of AI will be the early adopters of this type of service as well having gotten tired of the AI golden age. Truly human made content will become a status symbol and beyond the reaches of the average joe as AI generated content screws the supply v demand equation. I can see arts and adjacent fields becoming as in-demand as STEM in around 50-60 years.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by bluetomcat »

stephen_g wrote: post #40
bluetomcat wrote: post #32

It could unlock a better web without overlapping, basic and repetitive content spread throughout millions of websites, optimised for search engine indexing. I see it as an interactive knowledge aggregator for basic fact checking on any subject. This creates an opportunity for the web to thrive with genuine, original and thought-provoking authored content.

How can it be a fact-checking machine when it can take nonsense and make a plausible sounding response from it? GPT has no understanding of what truth is (let alone any real understanding of anything)…

That's why I said "basic". It can tell me about the major philosophical schools and the corresponding philosophers if I am a newbie on the subject, but I wouldn't trust it for any deep "existential" or "metaphysical" reasoning.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by guessbest »

badcppdev wrote: post #16
Snitch-Thursday wrote: post #10

Not to be a grumpy old man, but I will say, my known original definition of Web 3.0 was the Semantic Web [1] but I have no idea if that definition came before the one in TFA about those selling javascript webpage controls marketing their latest spinner product spinning it as web 3.0 > web 2.0. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web

Web 3.0 = Semantic Net Web 3.1 = NFT/Blockchain Web 3.2 = AI Large Language Models spurting content into the ecosystem

Web 3.0 = Semantic Net

Web 3.1 = Virtual Assets backed by cryptography encoding/decoding

Web 3.11 = Search for Workgroups built by $2 an hour Kenyan workers

> https://metro.co.uk/2023/01/19/openai-paid-kenyan-workers-le...

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by mahathu »

brookst wrote: post #5
webjunkie wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. What is it with everyone wanting to see Chat GPT only in the light of accessing information and then complaining about it?

It makes me wonder if these people have ever talked to a real person before. Spoiler: real people can be wrong too!

You can trust your friends to not straight up make up facts when they don't know something, like Chat-GPT does, for example.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by wongarsu »

TIPSIO wrote: post #31

Unlimited 24/7 AI streamers on Twitch. Unlimited 24/7 AI TV shows and movies (RIP Netflix, Hollywood). Unlimited AI opinions about any topics. Unlimited AI “grassroots” campaigns. Unlimited AI propaganda from every country and military (perfectly chosen each time). Unlimited AI comments, “friends”, and engagements on every social media platform for your posts. The bigger struggle will be for discovering authenticity…

I wouldn't be surprised if GPT4 can write better scripts than some of the Netflix originals. But that just raises the bar for what we accept from human writers, which is fine by me.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by iraldir »

itslennysfault wrote: post #38

Really wish people would stop conflating "Web 3.0" and "Web3" they're entirely different concepts that just have similar names, and don't get me started on "Web5" (but if they are achieving anything it's killing the "Web [version]" naming convention forever) More about Web3 ≠ Web 3.0 for the uninformed / curious: https://www.nexxworks.com/blog/web3-and-web-3-0-are-not-the-...

Aren't those just different vision of what the third iteration of the web platform will / should / can be?

Should I call mine 3.0.0 to differenciate it and introduce some proper semver whilst I'm at it?

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by px43 »

Imagine a world where the only content you see is from publishers that you trust, and that your friends trust, and their friends, to maybe 4 or 5 hops or so, and the feed was weighted by how much they are trusted by your particular social graph.

If you start seeing spammy content, you downvote it, and your trust level from that part of your social graph drops, and they are less likely to be able to publish things that you see. If you discover some high quality content, and you promote it, then your trust level will improve in your part of the social graph.

I'd say that the actual web3 (they crypto kind) is largely about reclaiming identity from centralized identity providers. Any time you publish anything, you're signing that publication with a key that only you hold. Once all content on the internet is signed, these trust graphs for delivering quality content and filtering out spam become trivial to build.

In this world, it doesn't matter if content is generated with ChatGPT, or content farms, or spammers. If the content is good, you'll see it, and if it's not, then you won't.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by qwertox »

TIPSIO wrote: post #31

Unlimited 24/7 AI streamers on Twitch. Unlimited 24/7 AI TV shows and movies (RIP Netflix, Hollywood). Unlimited AI opinions about any topics. Unlimited AI “grassroots” campaigns. Unlimited AI propaganda from every country and military (perfectly chosen each time). Unlimited AI comments, “friends”, and engagements on every social media platform for your posts. The bigger struggle will be for discovering authenticity…

> Unlimited 24/7 AI TV shows and movies (RIP Netflix, Hollywood).

I never thought of that, but it's entirely possible and sounds pretty scary. Assuming that this works and then add 2 human generations to it, which would perceive our movies like we do the black and white ones.

While a "classic movie" would then mean a human-made movie, it's scary to think that the new stream of media entertainment would be unlimited. Like you'd have to decide when to stop binge-watching, because the show would always go on.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by throwanem »

williamcotton wrote: post #48
btown wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO it's more vital than ever to fund projects like the Internet Archive. They're the only ones incentivized to maintain a snapshot of un-LLM-clouded training data of human knowledge, unclouded by the hubris of "who cares about the old stuff, we should focus our archiving on the web as it exists today" that inevitably will take hold (or already has) in big tech companies who will have laid off the vast majority of th…

We still have curated libraries and the knowledge contained in those books has a much better signal-to-noise ratio than the internet ever will!

The Internet Archive is a library.
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