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Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

#21
First, I'd talk to your manager directly. From what I can tell, this can either improve your situation, or just confirm to you more that you should leave.

I hate (have experience this myself) when instead of compensation for hard work, you receive fairly empty praise like "you're the best engineer we have". If I am, please pay me accordingly. This doesn't mean jumping you to principal engineer or anything, but it does mean to at least give you a raise. No raise or promotion in those three high performing years as their described best engineer seems absurd. In a lot of places, you need to vouch for yourself and maybe this is one of those places. You're the only person that's going to prioritize yourself.

I'd definitely sit down with you boss and tell him how you feel (write notes before hand) and be honest with them. Honestly, I'd start passively looking for jobs now. If things work out with your current employer, you can always still stay, but this will give you a jump start and an idea of your market worth.

I really wish you the best of luck. Worst case, I'm sure you'll be able to find another position that will compensate you appropriately.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

#22
Can the guy actually do your job or is he just expressing supreme confidence? I would not feel threatened by a cocky newb, its normal for a newb to be cocky especially when he knows hes walking onto a bloated lead title. Now he's your lead, make him do the work you don't want to do, what else is a lead for? You are the most senior engineer, relax take the work you want.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

#23
My comments (from this little information):

1. Empowering others frees yourselves and build teams. Never stop empowering others. You will be more successful in the long run. If the environment is competing you against your peers, leave the environment. A good environment allows fostering good people and working conflict free with multiple good people. Empowering others is part of that.

2. When you are developed by your manager, you go through stages. First it is hands-on (1:1, training, help, guidance, ...) but later it becomes completely loose (more responsibility, punishment if you do something wrong). As a manager you end-goal is independent people which do not need hands-on 1:1 meetings. Are you in that situation maybe?

3. "Cold Shoulder from the rest of the team": Something happened what you have not figured out. Figure it out.

4. Regards the lead engineer position: Ask yourself: Does he deserve the job independent from your own pride? Do you belief that the only differencing factor is your manager's preference ... that sucks but is not necessary toxic. Friendship often translates in trust. Maybe your boss also relies on his friend on leading the team now while he does other things.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

#24
>I was told that you are the best engineer in the whole organization.

>This is top 5 tech companies in Canada.

Choose one. No top 5 tech company would ignore a golden hen, and if they do, they will certainly feel it when you are gone. If your replacement is "up to speed" doing everything you were doing after a short training period - then this also waters down your claims of the above. I would honestly get an interview with a recruiter and see where you land on the engineer spectrum.

Top engineers in any organization that size will be known to management.

Some thoughts: Maybe your salary was very high when you came on originally? Did you negotiate it up a lot? Is your compensation equity-based and that part has picked up a lot vs your salary? In all big companies, there is an annual raise that corresponds to inflation - this is almost mandated at all companies so unless you had a sub-par performance review OR your comp package included something other than salary - it would be almost unheard of to have a salary frozen for 3 years, given even benchmark inflation was very high last year.

There are definitely some things not lining up here but giving you the benefit of the doubt:

Interview at the 4 bigger tech companies and see what you can get for an offer. If you get an offer, you use that as leverage to get a raise at your current job - or you take it. If you don't get an offer, then you stay put and have a meeting with your manager first, and if nothing comes of it or if you get blown off, then have a meeting with HR without your manager present. If neither of those things work, you can always adjust your output accordingly (9-5 mindset) since there seems to be no difference between high output and average for your role.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

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post #9

I’m blown away by some of the other comments here. There’s no value in having a victim mentality. Have you openly spoken to your manager about your concerns? How it doesn’t feel fair? How you feel you’re being treated? There’s a chance they have no idea. Maybe they’re not that experienced and are just working things out themselves. Or if they seem like the wrong person, is there someone above them you can voice your…

> Last time I had an employer I had feelings of being treated unfairly and voiced it

Did you raise it with your manager or his/her manager?

Just trying to understand at what forum did you raise it and how?

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

#26
post #9

I’m blown away by some of the other comments here. There’s no value in having a victim mentality. Have you openly spoken to your manager about your concerns? How it doesn’t feel fair? How you feel you’re being treated? There’s a chance they have no idea. Maybe they’re not that experienced and are just working things out themselves. Or if they seem like the wrong person, is there someone above them you can voice your…

> I did also come to them with a job offer from another company that had a larger dollar amount associated to it. As far as I know, this negotation strategy is orders of magnitude more effective than voicing feelings about being treated unfairly. Unless OP comes with better competing offer, there is likely nothing that can be changed in his situation.

Its even more effective — usually — to just take the better offer and leave. OP - you owe these people nothing.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

#27
It sounds like your manager is non-verbally messaging you to look for another job. In his defence, that is somewhat better than laying you off or putting you on a PIP, so as others have said, it's probably a good idea to look for another job.

In any case, for your personal growth, it is helpful to understand why things have gone wrong between you and the manager (or the whole team).

One of your theories seems to be that the manager brought in a friend to boot you out. That would explain his behavior, but not that everyone else on the team is giving you the cold shoulder.

I am purely guessing at this point, and I don't want to offend you - but it is possible that you have upset the whole team. Either slowly through your behavior, or there was a meeting, or something else. This may have been fully unintentional by you, and you do not seem to be aware of it. For your next job, it'd be helpful for you to understand what has gone wrong!

Your text reads like you're not a native speaker? I'm not either ;) If you move between cultures, there may be things that are acceptable in your own culture, but not in the culture you moved to. E.g. the way to disagree or discuss things. Maybe that's the area where this misunderstanding has come from?

You could try to approach a team mate, or the manager, and ask openly about the situation. Tell them you sense something is wrong, you don't understand what you have done wrong, but you'd like to fix it.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

#28
post #9

I’m blown away by some of the other comments here. There’s no value in having a victim mentality. Have you openly spoken to your manager about your concerns? How it doesn’t feel fair? How you feel you’re being treated? There’s a chance they have no idea. Maybe they’re not that experienced and are just working things out themselves. Or if they seem like the wrong person, is there someone above them you can voice your…

You have valid points. But look at the messaging. Great reviews, no raises, then "here, train your replacement" followed piping him to /dev/null. This isn't a recoverable situation. He's been had.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

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post #9

I’m blown away by some of the other comments here. There’s no value in having a victim mentality. Have you openly spoken to your manager about your concerns? How it doesn’t feel fair? How you feel you’re being treated? There’s a chance they have no idea. Maybe they’re not that experienced and are just working things out themselves. Or if they seem like the wrong person, is there someone above them you can voice your…

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