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#41

How did you train the model? Did you come across any particular challenges or problems with training? Would love to learn about any particular techniques you used based on your experience.

It’s just collecting that data from the fields, then inserting them into a prompt to send back to OpenAI; you can tell they’re using OpenAI from error messages.

I tried to inject a prompt into one of the fields to get back the prompt template they are using, but been unable to retrieve it:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34625129

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#42
I imagined receiving a pile of these cover letters, and having a negative reaction.

I'd feel they were wasting my time with bulk -- drowning out the meaningful, genuine ones, from people who invested in the communication -- as well as being from people who saw no problem in sending me what I'd consider a "fake" text that they didn't actually write themselves.

How about we try not to send LLM text that pretends to be written by a human?

And, if someone sends us text only pretending to have been written by themselves, we penalize that person?

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post #42

I imagined receiving a pile of these cover letters, and having a negative reaction. I'd feel they were wasting my time with bulk -- drowning out the meaningful, genuine ones, from people who invested in the communication -- as well as being from people who saw no problem in sending me what I'd consider a "fake" text that they didn't actually write themselves. How about we try not to send LLM text that pretends to be…

At the equilibrium employers will ignore the letters and find other ways.

If you want to trade your time/effort off applicants time/effort have them fill a tedious form.

Re: Show HN: AI Cover Letter Writer

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post #42

I imagined receiving a pile of these cover letters, and having a negative reaction. I'd feel they were wasting my time with bulk -- drowning out the meaningful, genuine ones, from people who invested in the communication -- as well as being from people who saw no problem in sending me what I'd consider a "fake" text that they didn't actually write themselves. How about we try not to send LLM text that pretends to be…

What difference between that AI generated texts and almost the same text, but written by human? Both are just meaningless texts about nothing, to not leave cover letter field empty.

Re: Show HN: AI Cover Letter Writer

#45
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a big fan of cover letters. I'll ALWAYS read an applicant who has sent a cover letter, and so in my books it's a good way to stand out from 100s of applicants (that are likely to only get skimmed and thrown out just due to the pure volume). It shows me that you care about the job and haven't just applied to 50 random roles.. not saying that it's bad to apply to lots of roles, but if you're that keen on the job I'…

Why would I do research on you, write a cover letter, and make a tailored resume when you haven’t even considered interviewing me yet? There’s no job I’m keen enough on to go through all that trouble. Also because the few times I did actually write something like that it just disappeared into a black hole.

Each to their own. I’d be more than happy to write something for you pre-emptively if I was really keen at exploring your company, but I’m quite picky and also I’m in sales (of sorts) so if I think I have a good pitch or angle/approach that will give me an edge I’ll take it (as opposed to playing the random lottery) - similarly I’ll also see if we have mutual connections on LinkedIn or if I know your investors etc :) … all I’m saying is that people should think about how to improve their odds!

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#46
post #23

This is cool but in the last 12 years I have never written a cover letter for a role or read one as a part of the hiring process. Maybe other markets outside of tech still use them or for entry roles.

In Germany you're asked to send cover letters for almost any job, in any industry, outside low level entry jobs like cleaning, tending tables, etc.

> jobs like cleaning, tending tables

For those, you now may have to talk to a chatbot by Apply Z[1] et al.

[1] https://www.talk-n-job.de

Re: Show HN: AI Cover Letter Writer

#47
As a hiring manager, boilerplate cover letters written in what I can only describe as the human version of ChatGPT tone already make me want to claw my eyes out, so I'm sure this will only help.

Am I misaligned with what the larger job market wants to see from a cover letter, or is all the advice given to kids on how to write a cover letter terrible?

Re: Show HN: AI Cover Letter Writer

#48
Maybe this is the nail in the coffin of a stupid, meaningless traditional procedure that was already outdated and exploitable a long time ago. If you can’t differentiate between an AI-generated and a real one for your position, you should probably not rely on it anyway.

Re: Show HN: AI Cover Letter Writer

#49

I am currently looking for ML scientist jobs (just about to get my PhD) and this tool is a life saver for me. I have been procrastinating cover letters for weeks, and I just wrote 10 letter tonight with this. Obviously the output is a little verbose and needs some tuning by myself, but it's significantly easier to edit down a already written cover letter than to write one from scratch.

Hopefully soon cover letters won’t be required anymore because of this. Then, if we’re lucky, AI paper generators will also get good enough to be indistinguishable, and so we will also stop having to write stupid verbose papers with 90% meaningless bullshit and only spend our time writing the 10% of a paper that actually matters. And as a bonus some meaningless research areas that do not have even those 10% to offer will slowly disappear.

Re: Show HN: AI Cover Letter Writer

#50

This is cool but in the last 12 years I have never written a cover letter for a role or read one as a part of the hiring process. Maybe other markets outside of tech still use them or for entry roles.

God bless you sir, please lead us to the future of mankind!
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