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Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Right, but still you have to click somewhere and type in a password IIRC. That's *way* too hard for many users. If it isn't done completely invisibly in the background, or completely forced on the user, then it just won't get done.

We lost a lot of competence along the years. Are people trying to get back into Womb state? I mean it's not just computers but everything. On the other hand we have highly competent people who are unwilling to put in "the work" if someone does a half assed job for them. Even if they know they can do better with little more effort. And then there are these ultra dedicated people who do everything to be independent fro…

I think you raise some good points, as I've noticed that it seems like average people, decades ago, used to be a lot more capable of handling various things that today it seems like they're not. I think personally it was because, back then, they were basically forced into it, or just didn't have so many things distracting them.

Still, when Grandma won't update her computer because clicking a few buttons and typing a password is too much work, we can't point to the past here: she wasn't updating computers in her younger years either, and usually wasn't using a computer at all. Even middle-aged people now are using computers and smartphones, when in their younger years they didn't have those things.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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> Many users are likely to click the first highlighted button without reading the message Honestly, these are most likely the people who would benefit most from being dragged kicking and screaming into updating, lest they fall victim to randomware.

Getting manipulated into installing an entirely new operating system is literally randomware.

Better randomware than ransomware.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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They can't trick me. I know what works. I'm sticking with Windows 98.

Everything since 7's been a downgrade. And really, if they'd just patched a very small set of 7 features into XP (mostly driver management improvements), I'd prefer that.

I wouldn't touch 8, but I rather like 10, and I'll stick with that until 12. Windows has a long tradition where whenever there's a good version, the next version sucks and vice-versa. Sort of the "tick-flop" model of software releases.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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My Windows 10 LTSB is going strong, no ads either. Plenty of time left on the security patches too.

Same with my Windows 10 Pro.

I'm always surprised to see so many complaints about it here, where I would expect most of the audience is somewhat tech literate and could easily configure it the way they want in a matter of minutes.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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They don’t feel faster than a decade ago and they feel significantly slower than two decades ago. There has to be some “law” name for how software expands to consume any increased resources.

You're correct, there is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_and_Bill%27s_law

Bill and Andy's law says software gets slower at the same rate that hardware gets faster.

Wirth's law says software gets slower more quickly than hardware gets faster.

There are other similar eponymous laws, but they're basically those two laws stated differently or with different attributions.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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So does the publisher of the article (neowin.net) with its cookie popup.

One is an Operating System you buy and pay for, to run — ostensibly — your computer.

The other is a website you visit for a specific genre of news.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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My daughter’s one does the same for ref. Which CPU does yours have in it. Ours are both 3700U. The issue is related to Radeon and power management. That’s as far as I got with debugging before my crushed soul put windows back on it so I could get some shit done.

processor : 7 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 23 model : 24 model name : AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U w/ Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx stepping : 1 microcode : 0x8108109 cpu MHz : 2300.000 cache size : 512 KB

Ok I am apparently just cursed!

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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> Linux is nice, but it would be nicer to have a UX focused product I feel like this is being over-used at this point. Modern gnome works fine.

GNOME is garbage made by people who really really wish they were working on tablet UIs but weren't good enough to work for Apple or Google. They repeatedly show disdain for the user base and their product is nigh unusable without extensions they provide no guarantee will continue working version to version.

I guess it doesn't work for you. I have no problems with it. In fact, I vastly prefer it to both Windows and OSX.

For me, I like the simplicity. I don't need any extensions. I don't have to hunt around for settings in ten different places with different user interfaces (windows, I'm looking at you). I have never got on with the window management in OSX, but some clearly prefer it.

I guess KDE is what people who want everything to be customisable out of the box should use, but I haven't tried that in years.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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> You don't get people whinging about having to update any other OS I think you just missed them. iOS gets constant issues - at least they stopped breaking the alarm clock. Each MacOS is a "what will I have to debug for a day this time" experience. Linux depends on a distribution, but Ubuntu at least is trying hard to join the release-breaking group. The only one I personally never complained about is Android. (I'm s…

There have been stats posted showing almost all iOS users run the latest version at any moment, so there clearly isn't the same kind of fear of updating that Windows users have had.

Windows users are afraid to upgrade because Microsoft generally tends to change things. When Apple actually makes breaking changes to their OS (see: Catalina, Big Sur, et. al) people are deathly afraid of upgrading their Mac. At least I've learned to fear it, after installing Catalina and watching half my apps break upon reboot.
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