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Re: Ask HN: Fake Job Candidates?

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Post by NullPrefix »

mirekrusin wrote: post #52
mirekrusin wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are they hiding this fact? Do you think their compensation is unrelated to how many other jobs they're performing at the same time?

Just to add to it, looking from time perspective you feel like a fool, there were many occasions in span of several months when SU/meeting couldn't be attended; already constrainted due to timezone difference, you'd think he'd make an effort to at least be available during short overlap hours, but couldn't because: - had to pick up mom from airport - had doctor's appointment - electricity was cut off the building - m…

>- i'm on m1

I assume that's a mac, can't blame the poor fella :D

Re: Ask HN: Fake Job Candidates?

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Post by JBlue42 »

Reminds me of this insane story from Ask A Manager:

https://www.askamanager.org/2022/01/the-new-hire-who-showed-...

I figured it had to be rare - how many people are brave enough to pull that off? Can't believe this is something people running into more.

I don't know if this is good news or bad for someone like me that's actively looking and not having much luck. Disappointing that fake people can get further.

Re: Ask HN: Fake Job Candidates?

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Post by mirekrusin »

giantg2 wrote: post #70
mirekrusin wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You reach another company to try to understand what is happening and you discover whole thing rides on lies on both sides.

That's fine. I assume each side would independently come to the conclusion to terminate. But actually coordinating those terminations between the companies seems like a problem.

Maybe wrong use of words on my side.

Re: Ask HN: Fake Job Candidates?

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Post by logicalmonster »

johanvts wrote: post #29
logicalmonster wrote: post #24

The root of this problem is that technically speaking, most people doing recruiting don't know their head from their ass when it comes to technology. I don't mean having actual programming experience, I just mean having enough basic high-level understanding to have a little intelligent conversation with somebody. This lack of knowledge means that the only method most recruiters have to try and rank people is asking t…

My contract states that I am expected to use my full work time with my employer and can't have another job. I think that this is a pretty common clause. It's not just about the hours but more the focus and energy.

> It's not just about the hours but more the focus and energy.

I understand the ostensible justification, but is that the real one?

Let's say that an employee does all of the work asked of them at a 100K salary and performs well, and still manages to hold down another n jobs.

What's the core issue here?

It feels like the real issue is that a boss is feeling a little butthurt that they didn't get to extract ($100K * n) production out of a $100K salary.

If somebody should be feeling wronged here, it's the person who is capable of doing ($100K * n) work getting paid $100K even though he's n times more productive than his peers who might be getting paid as much or even more than him.

Re: Ask HN: Fake Job Candidates?

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Post by aplusbi »

JonChesterfield wrote: post #11
pengaru wrote: post #9

I know someone who's getting a 20% cut for any US-only remote jobs he secures for an offshore team of developers who otherwise can't get such jobs. All he does is interview and get gigs for these people he doesn't even know, they do all the work. Probably something you're experiencing the other side of? AIUI they found him on LinkedIn just based on his skills overlapping theirs while being in the US, no prior connect…

Hard to feel much sympathy with the remote (but only in the US) crowd.

I worked for a New York based company once, and I was moving to Washington State and planned to continue to work remotely. I told my manager, he told his manager, everything was approved...until I sent out my goodbye email - turns out they never told HR. They had just assumed it would be fine since another employee was working remotely from Montana. However WA requires companies to pay WA taxes if they have any employees there (or something like that, I forget the exact details).

The solution was to make me a contractor and it more or less worked out in the end.

The point is, hiring remote workers can have all sorts of legal and financial hurdles, even when the remote workers are in the same country. Larger companies often have global employees and are used to and capable of handling these issues but smaller companies may not be so well equipped.

Re: Ask HN: Fake Job Candidates?

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Post by mgh2 »

1_1xdev1 wrote: post #13

Saw this a number of times at my last job. Things we encountered: - candidates that were clearly talking to someone between getting asked a question and answering - entirely different person interviewing than showed up to the job - one person on the coderpad, another person on camera (and hiding this fact) A surprising amount of comments trashing companies for trying to protect themselves from fraudulent candidates —…

Virtual assistants, greedy programmers: https://www.teamblind.com/post/Working-3-full-time-jobs-for-...

Re: Ask HN: Fake Job Candidates?

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Post by stumblindrunk »

JonChesterfield wrote: post #27
stumblindrunk wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

Because I like US working hours and working remotely and live in Europe.

I don’t know what that would do with feeling no sympathy? It’s a pain to hire internationally. Not like a huge one, but for non-enterprise if really is a burden.
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