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Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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I waited for a long time to upgrade to win11 due to issues. A start menu and task bar replacement fixed my biggest issue. WSL2 is awesome compared to WSL1. I dont care for the animations are either on/off, because I hate the zoom out animation when turning on my 2nd monitor. Other than that, stuff works now and seems to work rather nicely. Also, font rendering is nicer.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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They can't trick me. I know what works. I'm sticking with Windows 98.

I run Windows 98 on my WIP retro computer. I recently got into the habit of dual booting OpenBSD so I can rsync C:\WINDOWS to another partition, and rsync it back when it inevitably becomes unbootable as I test things out. This was a golden moment for me as I was no longer installing a fresh copy 3x per day. More on-topic: Windows 98 is not only nostalgic but it also represents a past time when we were more in contro…

I kind of wonder what happens if you put a Windows 3.11 complete with Trumpet WinSock on the unprotected internet these days. I wonder if it’s immune because there’s all the malware has evolved past its exploits.

Watch there be some retro computing enthusiast (unintentionally?) running Back Orifice out there. Like a shadow ecosystem of archaic malware.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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It's amazing to me that Mac and Windows don't really feel (from UX standpoint) that much faster or smoother than 10 years ago despite hardware being much more powerful. Computers get faster but software keeps operating on the "edge" by adding more complexity. Linux is nice, but it would be nicer to have a UX focused product that keeps it simple and takes advantage of fast hardware instead of seeing it as an opportuni…

They don’t feel faster than a decade ago and they feel significantly slower than two decades ago. There has to be some “law” name for how software expands to consume any increased resources.

I expect that's a corollary to Parkinson's law

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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I upgraded to Windows 11 on purpose, I don't quite understand the complaints about it. You need TPM 2 and Secure Boot anyway for security (no, password-based encryption is not secure).

How is password based encryption not secure? The hardware based encryption used on windows and macos doesn't seem to really do anything and is always used in combination with password based encryption. Seems to be more of a "it's free to add so why not, and it might be useful to stop brute force cracking the password"

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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> A fresh Linux system is unparalleled zen, as long as you coughed up the money for a properly supported machine. In before, “Yeah, we’ll, I just don’t use that feature so it doesn’t bother me.”

In response to what? All three operating systems here have things they are uniquely capable of, and uniquely incapable of. The stones are all in glass houses, I dare someone to throw the first one.

This is a really weak retort. Only with linux is buying hardware a minefield where it's common to blame the purchaser for "not doing the research" or knowing what chipset(!) is in some piece of consumer hardware. Meanwhile, this problem simply doesn't exist on the two main desktop competitors.

It's been this way for 30 years.

And yes, this counts for "fully supported" hardware.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

#86

I mean, there is an option to stay on Windows 10 but man... Microsoft, really scraping the bottom of the barrel with that move. Though with only 18% of Windows users on Windows 11, and Windows 10 going EOL in 2 years supposedly... maybe they are that desperate. Having to extend Windows 10's service life would be humiliating.

I was really hoping they would stick to their "window 10 is the last windows" rolling release idea. They could've avoided this whole thing this way. (It could be still bad for the users though...)

I think they probably wanted the big yearly announcement posts that Android, iOS and macOS get. You don't get people whinging about having to update any other OS, which is funny because Windows tends to break stuff the least out of any of them.

Perhaps if MS started releasing a numbered windows every year people would be less resistant to installing it.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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They can't trick me. I know what works. I'm sticking with Windows 98.

Everything since 7's been a downgrade. And really, if they'd just patched a very small set of 7 features into XP (mostly driver management improvements), I'd prefer that.

You'd probably want AMD64 support too?

The XP UI was so much better. Technically I think I remember 7 as working better but I didn't like it as much.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Crap like this makes my Linux desktop (Gnome on Ubuntu) feel nice in comparison. As the mainstream players have added more bloat/ads/etc (e.g. ads in the start menu) over the last N years, and the Linux desktop has gotten more mature, it really does just feel simple & smooth in comparison. Not suggesting Linux is for everyone, but if you happen to use it or are thinking about it, it's nice.

I disagree. I've tried Linux on the desktop over and over and over again from about 1997 and there's just problems with it all over the place. I have used it on the server for the same period. The desktop environment for a start has been incredibly volatile, the kernel maturity is just not there and honestly most of the commercial apps out there which are Windows or macOS only aren't available on Linux. Also sometime…

> the commercial apps out there which are Windows or macOS only aren't available on Linux

So you're saying that the apps that aren't available on linux, aren't available on linux?

What a great surprise!

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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I think anyone who uses win 10 cares. Win 11 is shitshow. Tried it on my gaming machine a few months ago because I was curious. The best thing about it was the ability to revert to Win 10. It was time limited - you could only do this within 1 week after the "upgrade". I explicitly paid money to Microsoft for a Win 10 license to be treated like this.

what was a shit show? I only have one windows machine with 10 on it and it's not compatible with windows 11, but I'll probably have to replace it as it's about 8 years old (but with relatively new drive and maxed out memory)

UX and general performance.

- In general, most things are implemented with even worse design and UX/UI taste than before. Example: Drop-down/context menus have these dead zones between every row, a few pixels tall, for no particular reason where no row is highlighted. That particular thing was driving me up the wall. It just makes no sense.

- So much weird jank in basic Win32 components.

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