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Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Post by brokencode »

btax wrote: post #19

Why don't they finish actually implementing W11, give it a consistent UI standard and stop investing all their energy in trying to monitor and monetize their already paying users? Maybe then, people will upgrade.

Part of the problem is that many “paying users” haven’t paid for a long time. Windows 11 is a free upgrade, which of course means that Microsoft is finding new and creative ways to extract a profit.

I’d personally rather pay for extremely high quality OS updates, but I know from personal experience that most people don’t care enough to pay. They’d stick with the old OS until they have to buy a new computer, which could be 5+ years.

So for Microsoft, they either have to support large amounts of users on old OS versions or make the upgrades free. Unless Microsoft can start making large profits on the hardware like Apple does, this is really the only business model that makes sense.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Post by chupasaurus »

danyho wrote: post #29
bombolo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows doesn't support changing the volume by scrolling when having the mouse on the speaker tray icon. I miss that so much when I'm on windows and not on KDE.

I am on Windows 11 right now and it most definitely does work.

And 10, both "new" scroll panel and the old mixer one.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Post by wrldos »

I used to be annoyed about this until I experienced the tail end of Windows XP and Windows 7 in the financial services market. I've seen things that would make any sysadmin out there cry. I mean I'm still annoyed yet as a power user but I see why they do it.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Post by [deleted] »

bombolo wrote: post #25
jaimex2 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux desktops are nicer period. Both OSX and Windows feel like an archaic mess when you go back to them. How are system restarts still a thing?!

Windows doesn't support changing the volume by scrolling when having the mouse on the speaker tray icon. I miss that so much when I'm on windows and not on KDE.

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Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Post by smoldesu »

jaimex2 wrote: post #16
mkasberg wrote: post #12

Crap like this makes my Linux desktop (Gnome on Ubuntu) feel nice in comparison. As the mainstream players have added more bloat/ads/etc (e.g. ads in the start menu) over the last N years, and the Linux desktop has gotten more mature, it really does just feel simple & smooth in comparison. Not suggesting Linux is for everyone, but if you happen to use it or are thinking about it, it's nice.

Linux desktops are nicer period. Both OSX and Windows feel like an archaic mess when you go back to them. How are system restarts still a thing?!

Branding alone gets me. Booting up MacOS or Windows just feels wrong, nevermind the time I spend uninstalling their bloatware or disabling the ads. A fresh Linux system is unparalleled zen, as long as you coughed up the money for a properly supported machine.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Post by AgentME »

exelib wrote: post #32

I have never seen this screen. Why don't you just click the "Keep Windows 10" button? But TBH, I wish the same from many other projects. Update python 2->3 was really painful for the whole community. Same for cjs->esm. I am pretty sure both would have been much faster and less painful if it was a hard switch.

If your computer isn't compatible with Windows 11 (your CPU/motherboard not having a TPM probably being the main reason) then you won't see the upgrade prompt.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Post by lostmsu »

KMnO4 wrote: post #37
massysett wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re still a thing on Linux, I have to restart with every kernel update.

It was designed that way, but it doesn’t actually need to be that way. KSplice, for example, lets you update the kernel without rebooting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ksplice

> does not provide any mechanisms for ensuring function-level consistency while the hot patches are applied

E.g. a shotgun pointed at your feet

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Post by proc0 »

mkasberg wrote: post #12

Crap like this makes my Linux desktop (Gnome on Ubuntu) feel nice in comparison. As the mainstream players have added more bloat/ads/etc (e.g. ads in the start menu) over the last N years, and the Linux desktop has gotten more mature, it really does just feel simple & smooth in comparison. Not suggesting Linux is for everyone, but if you happen to use it or are thinking about it, it's nice.

It's amazing to me that Mac and Windows don't really feel (from UX standpoint) that much faster or smoother than 10 years ago despite hardware being much more powerful. Computers get faster but software keeps operating on the "edge" by adding more complexity. Linux is nice, but it would be nicer to have a UX focused product that keeps it simple and takes advantage of fast hardware instead of seeing it as an opportunity to load it with more complexity for seemingly no benefit.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Post by lostmsu »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #36
massysett wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re still a thing on Linux, I have to restart with every kernel update.

Do you mean like the "system restart required - in 60s" style of the other OSes, or just in order to boot with the newly-installed kernel? The only you-must-reboot-now-no-choice thing I can think of any of my Linux desktops is nvidia driver updates, I guess because you're living on borrowed time without a reboot...

Not only that, unlike Windows TPM + Secure Boot still requires lots of manual shenanigans on every kernel update (at least on Fedora).
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