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Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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I have never seen this screen. Why don't you just click the "Keep Windows 10" button? But TBH, I wish the same from many other projects. Update python 2->3 was really painful for the whole community. Same for cjs->esm. I am pretty sure both would have been much faster and less painful if it was a hard switch.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

#33

I mean, there is an option to stay on Windows 10 but man... Microsoft, really scraping the bottom of the barrel with that move. Though with only 18% of Windows users on Windows 11, and Windows 10 going EOL in 2 years supposedly... maybe they are that desperate. Having to extend Windows 10's service life would be humiliating.

All you people who thought that Micro$oft in the Satya Nidella era had become a kinder, gentler company, this is proof positive that the tiger doesn't change its stripes.

(now looking for a good alternative to the Atom text editor because I refuse to use VSCode)

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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> this potentially increases security risks, so proceed only if you are 100% sure turning off TPM will not break anything on your system So is there any real risk to disabling so-called "Trusted Platform Module"?

Yes, if you have Bitlocker with hardware-backed encryption active and you clear out the TPM you will not be able to unlock that disk in the worst case.

I also remember having some minor hiccups related to network credentials and Windows Hello when I disabled the TPM to prevent any "accidental" W11 upgrade.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

#35
1. An operating system should only display something on the screen if it is in service of the user. This is in service to Microsoft, and a full screen display.

2. The two 'yes' buttons shows Microsoft is really shaky on the concept of consent.

Why is Microsoft pushing Windows 11 so strongly? Is there an economic advantage for them to have a user on W11 instead of W10? I haven't owned or dailyed a Windows computer since before Windows 8 was released, this question comes from a place of curiosity as an outsider.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Linux desktops are nicer period. Both OSX and Windows feel like an archaic mess when you go back to them. How are system restarts still a thing?!

They’re still a thing on Linux, I have to restart with every kernel update.

Do you mean like the "system restart required - in 60s" style of the other OSes, or just in order to boot with the newly-installed kernel? The only you-must-reboot-now-no-choice thing I can think of any of my Linux desktops is nvidia driver updates, I guess because you're living on borrowed time without a reboot...

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Linux desktops are nicer period. Both OSX and Windows feel like an archaic mess when you go back to them. How are system restarts still a thing?!

They’re still a thing on Linux, I have to restart with every kernel update.

It was designed that way, but it doesn’t actually need to be that way.

KSplice, for example, lets you update the kernel without rebooting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ksplice

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

#38

> Many users are likely to click the first highlighted button without reading the message Honestly, these are most likely the people who would benefit most from being dragged kicking and screaming into updating, lest they fall victim to randomware.

Getting manipulated into installing an entirely new operating system is literally randomware.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Linux desktops are nicer period. Both OSX and Windows feel like an archaic mess when you go back to them. How are system restarts still a thing?!

Windows doesn't support changing the volume by scrolling when having the mouse on the speaker tray icon. I miss that so much when I'm on windows and not on KDE.

It's all the little conveniences like that in desktop oriented Linux-based operating systems (which directly correspond to opposing "paper-cuts" in Windows and often MacOS) which have kept me on Linux for a couple few decades now (last Windows I used regularly was Windows 7). It was rough going at first, as Linux distros weren't nearly as "polished" back then as they mostly are now, but it was worth it because Linux simply kept improving in every little detail that mattered to me. Every time I'm forced to touch Windows these days, it's positively painful trying to navigate even the most basic functions.

Re: Microsoft shows full-screen Windows 11 upgrade ads with two 'yes' buttons

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Crap like this makes my Linux desktop (Gnome on Ubuntu) feel nice in comparison. As the mainstream players have added more bloat/ads/etc (e.g. ads in the start menu) over the last N years, and the Linux desktop has gotten more mature, it really does just feel simple & smooth in comparison. Not suggesting Linux is for everyone, but if you happen to use it or are thinking about it, it's nice.

Linux desktops are nicer period. Both OSX and Windows feel like an archaic mess when you go back to them. How are system restarts still a thing?!

I've had trouble with sound, wireless (both wifi and bluetooth), graphics, boot, and power-state management with Linux, with at least one of these issues appearing in every single device I've installed Linux on, with none of those appearing on the Windows devices that I've also used.

I also have experienced performance, usability, and integration problems with every Linux desktop environment that I've used.

Linux desktops are certainly not "nicer period". They're better than Windows and macOS along certain axes (e.g. transparency and modularity of internals) and worse along others.

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