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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by la64710 »

zaptrem wrote: post #462

I think a personal subscription model where ChatGPT Plus subscribers are given personal API access for use with third-party open source apps (e.g., Chrome extensions, Siri Shortcuts, VSCode extensions) would be extremely valuable and much more lucrative than selling to specific companies. OpenAI has the opportunity to become the next fundamental utility provider for society. In the same way everybody has a data plan…

As far ChatGPT is concerned they certainly have the first movers advantage but I doubt if this wil last long. Now if I get a busy can’t talk from dear old chatGPT I just shuffle over to https://you.com/search?q=who+are+you&tbm=youchat&cfr=chat

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by shinycode »

aliqot wrote: post #420
isoprophlex wrote: post #332

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I want it in a gleaming metal box, self-contained on whatever is the 2033 version of a raspberry pi. I want it equipped with speech-to-text and text-to-speech. The box is featureless except for three rotary dials for "sass", "verbosity" and "sarcasm". It can be a family heirloom, lovingly ridiculed as grandpa's toy AI, to be taken out of an attic on christmases in 2050.

You're pretty close. Eventually grandpa will be in the box. Our life's biodata will stream into the cloud as it happens through ancillary means (phones, watches, biometric sensors in retail stores), and the moment we die, our animatronic proxy will be ordered and arrive after an appropriate grieving period. You don't really have to live forever if your robot understudy can continue your legacy. Imagine the recurring…

Looks a bit like the movie Final Cut with Robin Williams

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by [deleted] »

kolinko wrote: post #466
johtso wrote: post #401

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I think there's also an argument to be made that $20 per month is a bigger deal than some people realise. The issue isn't just _that one_ specific subscription you're paying for. The issue is how they all accumulate over time.. and eventually you find that your metaphorical bucket of money has turned into a leaky sieve. Not to mention all the services you forget to unsubscribe from even though they've ceased to provi…

Sure, but with some things, the increase in productivity pays off the price easily - you end up earning more, or working way less. $20/mo for a subscription of NYT, or Netflix is not one of those things. But ChatGPT in many cases can save whole days of work over each month, so - especially when you're a freelancer, it will pay itself off.

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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by aliqot »

Matumio wrote: post #449
aliqot wrote: post #420

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You're pretty close. Eventually grandpa will be in the box. Our life's biodata will stream into the cloud as it happens through ancillary means (phones, watches, biometric sensors in retail stores), and the moment we die, our animatronic proxy will be ordered and arrive after an appropriate grieving period. You don't really have to live forever if your robot understudy can continue your legacy. Imagine the recurring…

Interesting stuff to think about (though I don't believe anything close to that will happen). Recommended Reading: Charles Stross ("Accelerando") and Greg Egan ("Permutation City", "Diaspora"). All of them on the crazy/nerdy side.

It does happen.

It starts as a box that the user submits all of their texts, recordings, emails, content to, and a comprehensive survey covering items such as accuracy, temperament, "what would so and so do in this situation". Think of it like reverse-takeout. The box arrives, you fill it, then send it back.

That box ships off the data to be 'curated' (remote training and buildup of an ad hoc model, read: taking existing data provided and supplementing data based on region, familial background, community), then the curator provides a sample window for the user via their browser or phone. If they choose to keep the cultivated persona representing their loved one (or marketed persona), they pay and a box device arrives, pre-programmed with the model they've ordered. At first these are dumb and only have knowledge of what they've been provided, but eventually they're able to assimilate new data, and grow or evolve the persona as if it were still a person.

Few buy the full body, some stick with just the interaction provided by their Alexa, some a painting or app. The medium is transient, and offers degrees of expression for the proxy model, a mother may want to be able to hold the child she lost, while someone who lost a friend may find it adequate to have their friend in an app. It's personal choice.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by LesZedCB »

tenpies wrote: post #468
rnd0 wrote: post #456

>We’re launching a pilot subscription plan for ChatGPT, a conversational AI that can chat with you, answer follow-up questions, and challenge incorrect assumptions. No one wanted that last part, no one wants that last part, and anyway "incorrect" according to who? Would it fair to assume that the more you pay, the less it "challenges" your "incorrect assumptions"?

> No one wanted that last part, no one wants that last part, and anyway "incorrect" according to who? On the bright side, it means ChatGPT will never replace humans. Catering to a Democrat fantasy that is ever more diverging from reality, means ChatGPT becomes less like asking a library, and more like asking /r/politics.

what if i told you the same people on r/politics are just as capable of writing books full of equally dumb ideas, publishing, and getting them into a library as well?

the medium is the message.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by shinycode »

sterlind wrote: post #219
kokanee wrote: post #149

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$20 is the very first price tier introduced at the very outset of what could be one of the most powerful companies of our generation. Google.com adding a single yellow box with an advertisement seemed reasonable, too. Anyone else having serious concerns about the direction this is going? At my wife's company they have already largely replaced an hourly data classification job with ChatGPT. This announcement is the fi…

It's going to hit so unevenly. My partner works with children at a homeless shelter, I'm an algorithm designer. I'm certain my job will be obsolete before my partner's is. It's going to automate away nearly all pure desk jobs. Starting with data entry, like you've seen, but it'll come for junior SDEs and data scientists too. Customer service, then social media/PR, then marketing, as it culls the white collar. Graphic…

Well if your job is automated, as well as all software developers then at this point sales, marketing will be because way easier to do. And then no managers will be necessary if there is no human working. At this point Saas companies will probably have no meaning and we all be jobless from the current perspective. We will either create new jobs that machine can’t do yet. Be reduced to slavery from very rich people owning the tech. Or maybe we’ll all enjoy this new tech that freed more time. Given the past human history the former is pretty unlikely tough

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by erulabs »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #433
erulabs wrote: post #395

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This is partly because in English we literally lack the word required. Free is both “gratis” and “libre”. Software should be free, but software does not need to be free. The lack of distinction on this term plagues the English speaking world in more ways than frugal programmers. See: the entire political spectrum in the US

Can you be more specific? Suppose a new word was introduced. What would the dictionary definition be?

Well it's hard to add a new word to mean either "gratis" or "libre" in english because free would still mean both things.

But to be more clear:

Free as in "gratis" is like "buy one get one free". It means something provided at no cost - ie: "They had a problem with their computer system so they gave me the salad for free"

Free as in "libre" is like "freedom", a more abstract concept about being not being restricted from something or having the right to something.

Software can be "free as in libre", ie: it's open-source. It can also be "free as in gratis" in that it costs no money. But they're different concepts, and have different implications.

Many developers want software to be "free", as in open-source, and confuse that with "I will allocate no resources towards that thing".

I particularly like the "free as in beer", which is a HIGHLY confused term, but I take it to mean: Beer itself is free - it's not patented and anyone can learn to make it. However, any individual beer is a product that took effort to produce, and thus, is not free of charge.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by tourist2d »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #445
gdb wrote: post #374

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(I work at OpenAI.) Thanks for the report — these are not actually messages from other users, but instead the model generating something ~random due to hitting a bug on our backend where, rather than submitting your question, we submitted an empty query to the model. That's why you see just the answers and no question upon refresh — the question has been effectively dropped for this request. Team is fixing the issue…

While I have your ear, please implement some way to do third party integrations safely. There’s a tool called GhostWrite which autocompletes emails for you, powered by ChatGPT. But I can’t use it, because that would mean letting some random company get access to all my emails. The same thing happened with code. There’s a ChatGPT integration for pycharm, but I can’t use it since it’ll be uploading the code to someone…

Tl;dr

"Dear CTO, let me leech onto this unrelated topic to ask you to completely remove ways you gather data (even though it's the core way you create any of your products)."

Some people man..

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by r00fus »

evo_9 wrote: post #240
r00fus wrote: post #214

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I strongly doubt the UBI part as it goes against the "religion" of Wall Street and most politicians.

Ok then what? I keep saying what I said to my dad 10 years+ back - once we automate ALL jobs out of existence be that 10 years or 100 years from now, how does society / monetary systems change? What comes next? UBI at best is a stopgap.

I'm just saying that it seems as though (especially given the messaging that Wall Street has given to the public as it pertains to their position on the debt ceiling crisis) that Wall Street is probably happy to say "let them eat cake" for those who can't participate in the new economy.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by teawrecks »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #445
gdb wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(I work at OpenAI.) Thanks for the report — these are not actually messages from other users, but instead the model generating something ~random due to hitting a bug on our backend where, rather than submitting your question, we submitted an empty query to the model. That's why you see just the answers and no question upon refresh — the question has been effectively dropped for this request. Team is fixing the issue…

While I have your ear, please implement some way to do third party integrations safely. There’s a tool called GhostWrite which autocompletes emails for you, powered by ChatGPT. But I can’t use it, because that would mean letting some random company get access to all my emails. The same thing happened with code. There’s a ChatGPT integration for pycharm, but I can’t use it since it’ll be uploading the code to someone…

> Everyone’s data goes to Google when they use Google. But everyone’s data goes to a bunch of random companies when they use ChatGPT.

No, their data goes to random companies when they use random companies. And these services also exist for google.

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