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Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by zeta0134 »

p1necone wrote: post #136
miga wrote: post #4

There are many problems with discord, and GPU is not the worst one. Discord Snap has to block many unusual activities, but I still see these: * attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; * using 99% CPU; * to work Discord needs some non-standard interfaces to be connected; * Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it. * too frequently restarting desktop integration snap until the lo…

> Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it. You might not want it, but it's not like this is unexpected behaviour. Tracking the currently running game and sharing that information with your friends is an intentional, advertised feature.

I wouldn't mind this feature so much if it were optional. However, while it's possible to disable the sharing of the information, as far as I'm aware the only way to stop Discord from being able to probe the running processes (so it can display them in the corner to the user) is to run it in a web browser. As such, the desktop apps do not get to run on my machines.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by charcircuit »

nextaccountic wrote: post #149
miga wrote: post #4

There are many problems with discord, and GPU is not the worst one. Discord Snap has to block many unusual activities, but I still see these: * attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; * using 99% CPU; * to work Discord needs some non-standard interfaces to be connected; * Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it. * too frequently restarting desktop integration snap until the lo…

> * attempt to ptrace processes all the time; There are Discord employees on the thread so I gotta ask.. what's the justification on this one? Shit like this makes open sourcing the client a must for me

>Shit like this makes open sourcing the client a must for me

The client is written in javascript. It's not hard to go look at the source.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by nextaccountic »

charcircuit wrote: post #152
nextaccountic wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> * attempt to ptrace processes all the time; There are Discord employees on the thread so I gotta ask.. what's the justification on this one? Shit like this makes open sourcing the client a must for me

>Shit like this makes open sourcing the client a must for me The client is written in javascript. It's not hard to go look at the source.

Open source isn't about looking at the sources. It's about legally forking the client to remove malware and other unwanted features.

Open source is about giving back users control over their own computer

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by UI_at_80x24 »

WheatMillington wrote: post #131
miga wrote: post #4

There are many problems with discord, and GPU is not the worst one. Discord Snap has to block many unusual activities, but I still see these: * attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; * using 99% CPU; * to work Discord needs some non-standard interfaces to be connected; * Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it. * too frequently restarting desktop integration snap until the lo…

Me and my friends started using discord early in its life. It was a joy to get away from Skype, google meet, etc. It was such an elegant solution. Sadly it has become a gigantic, bloated, buggy mess trying to do absolutely everything. I hate it. Can anyone recommend a better solution?

mumble

The stand-alone server is small, and efficient. There are countless clients that will work with it. I've run it on Linux & FreeBSD systems.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by unethical_ban »

WheatMillington wrote: post #131
miga wrote: post #4

There are many problems with discord, and GPU is not the worst one. Discord Snap has to block many unusual activities, but I still see these: * attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; * using 99% CPU; * to work Discord needs some non-standard interfaces to be connected; * Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it. * too frequently restarting desktop integration snap until the lo…

Me and my friends started using discord early in its life. It was a joy to get away from Skype, google meet, etc. It was such an elegant solution. Sadly it has become a gigantic, bloated, buggy mess trying to do absolutely everything. I hate it. Can anyone recommend a better solution?

I used to use Mumble. I still think decentralized, encrypted chat is great. But there is nothing like Discord for free.

If Mumble could do streaming/video and rich text support, I think people could be peeled off Discord a tad.

But I don't know what you're talking about regarding buggy. Discord runs pretty much perfectly for me, excepting one issue (it was either Discord or Corsair Wave) that was giving fuzzy audio with a particular virtual audio input.

For how complex the server/channel/DM/text chat/"voice channel" text chat schema is, I think it's a pretty impressive product.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by UI_at_80x24 »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #109
causi wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mumble is a much better experience than Teamspeak, at least in my experience.

Mumble is probably the best VOIP solution on the market. The main issue blocking its wider adoption, IMO, is the lack of support for persistent, multi-media friendly, text chat. I've suspected for a while that Discord could be totally replaced by someone duct-taping Mumble and some forum software together.

You call that a bug, i call it a feature.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by kefka_p »

seanhunter wrote: post #144
kefka_p wrote: post #137

I must be having a hard time waking up today, or something, because I can’t wrap my brain around why a chat app would need 3D acceleration. The first chat sites on the web e.g. Bianca’s, Poolside, and Talker were built using more primitive versions of the same interface tools used by electron and while they didn’t have the functionality of video and audio chats, they also didn’t break your GPU driver. I miss the Unix…

> I can’t wrap my brain around why a chat app would need 3D acceleration. A big part of discord's target community is gaming/gamers. One of the features it provides is the ability to livestream the game you are playing and view streams of games others are playing. Definitely not my area, but I wouldn't be surprised if streaming some game with an overlay would require 3d acceleration to not suck.

Streaming functionality isn’t chat, though. AMD gives you the option to not install streaming functionality when you install their drivers and I’m pretty sure they target gamers too.

It reminds me of the age of Windows bloatware.

Trying to pile all the ingredients on a single piece of bread does not a good sandwich make. On the contrary, it leaves me with an impression that they have to rely on the brand recognition and snowball effect of previous products.

I would probably hold their software in higher regard if it wasn’t just one monolithic multi-tool. They don’t even have to push multiple apps, but could use a modular architecture at the app level with plug-ins to support non-core functionality.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by jeoqn »

snake_plissken wrote: post #2

Discord can definitely do some strange things to your machine. I can't play DayZ when it's open, the game will not connect to any servers and errors out with this "player auth login state" message. I thought it was my internet connection but running a server locally also resulted in the same error. It took me a few months of on-and-off searching, but I eventually found a comment on a message board where someone had e…

If I had to guess I’d say discord attaches to the dayz executable to show the discord overlay in-game and the dayz anti cheat doesn’t like it when processes get attached to the game because that’s how cheats work and doesn’t let you auth into the online game.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by spoils19 »

UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #156
OkayPhysicist wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mumble is probably the best VOIP solution on the market. The main issue blocking its wider adoption, IMO, is the lack of support for persistent, multi-media friendly, text chat. I've suspected for a while that Discord could be totally replaced by someone duct-taping Mumble and some forum software together.

You call that a bug, i call it a feature.

When did they ever call it a bug?

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by unethical_ban »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #109
causi wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mumble is a much better experience than Teamspeak, at least in my experience.

Mumble is probably the best VOIP solution on the market. The main issue blocking its wider adoption, IMO, is the lack of support for persistent, multi-media friendly, text chat. I've suspected for a while that Discord could be totally replaced by someone duct-taping Mumble and some forum software together.

Same. I've thought about what Mumble needs to be competitive at all in the market.

* Persistent chat

* Multimedia chat (Emojis, resized images, etc)

* Camera streaming/game streaming (MUST HAVE these days)

Additionally, if there were "mumble multi-server management" that allowed a host to spin up other servers quickly, third-parties could skim off Discord. There is no loyalty to Discord IMO, it's just so damned easy to use.

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