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Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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post #104

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Keeping it vague means they can simply shrug and refer to being able to ban accounts at their own discretion

Yeah, that’s already the case with every online service. They don’t need to be vague — they don’t have to give any reason for banning you.

Ah, I didn't really read the ToS, but contemplated a third party client a while ago, and was told I best avoid them due to ToS violations. I guess it must've spread through that tweet.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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I’m the opposite. If there is a well written app on iOS or iPadOS, I’ll use it for the increased privacy protections, lower battery and CPU usage and (sometimes) lower bandwidth consumption. IMHO, mobile operating systems have gotten better than legacy desktop operating systems in a bunch of key areas. But of all the platforms, the web is the worst one. The web has tracking everywhere and often uses a lot of CPU, mem…

> The web has tracking everywhere and often uses a lot of CPU, memory, battery, and bandwidth. The alternative to using something like Discord on the web is not a well-optimized desktop app that is somehow more respectful w.r.t. tracking than the web version. Same goes for Slack, Zoom, etc. It will still use lots of CPU and memory, and now in addition to tracking you with the techniques available to it in the browser…

Will iOS let processes see each other?

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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post #84

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I’m the opposite. If there is a well written app on iOS or iPadOS, I’ll use it for the increased privacy protections, lower battery and CPU usage and (sometimes) lower bandwidth consumption. IMHO, mobile operating systems have gotten better than legacy desktop operating systems in a bunch of key areas. But of all the platforms, the web is the worst one. The web has tracking everywhere and often uses a lot of CPU, mem…

Of the two major mobile OSes, one is literally owned by an ad company and the other is increasingly succumbing to the dark side of advertising. Why would I trust Apple not to do nefarious things with all the tracking they do ("privacy" my ass) when I could just use a browser with an adblocker and do even better?

You don’t think Apple can see what you are doing in your browser?

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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I must be having a hard time waking up today, or something, because I can’t wrap my brain around why a chat app would need 3D acceleration. The first chat sites on the web e.g. Bianca’s, Poolside, and Talker were built using more primitive versions of the same interface tools used by electron and while they didn’t have the functionality of video and audio chats, they also didn’t break your GPU driver. I miss the Unix…

> I can’t wrap my brain around why a chat app would need 3D acceleration.

A big part of discord's target community is gaming/gamers. One of the features it provides is the ability to livestream the game you are playing and view streams of games others are playing.

Definitely not my area, but I wouldn't be surprised if streaming some game with an overlay would require 3d acceleration to not suck.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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I’m the opposite. If there is a well written app on iOS or iPadOS, I’ll use it for the increased privacy protections, lower battery and CPU usage and (sometimes) lower bandwidth consumption. IMHO, mobile operating systems have gotten better than legacy desktop operating systems in a bunch of key areas. But of all the platforms, the web is the worst one. The web has tracking everywhere and often uses a lot of CPU, mem…

Webapps have better privacy protections than native. Battery/cpu is a tossup depending on the app. With the example above of chat apps I've found that the webapps use less cpu/memory. I think you're correct that desktop operating systems are in sore need of a permissions model for non-free apps. It should be possible to build one, and then shame vendors into using it.

A well written native app should use less battery and CPU than a well written web app. Lots of native apps are not well written though and, like Gruber said, many are just a wrapper around a web view showing their website.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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post #70

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Mumble is a much better experience than Teamspeak, at least in my experience.

Mumble is probably the best VOIP solution on the market. The main issue blocking its wider adoption, IMO, is the lack of support for persistent, multi-media friendly, text chat. I've suspected for a while that Discord could be totally replaced by someone duct-taping Mumble and some forum software together.

Discord's biggest sell is being able to spin up your own "server" for zero effort and for free. Some kind of federated Mumble that people could rent servers from (or join their own self-hosted servers to) would be able to eat into some of Discord's market share but the free hosting is a huge draw ro Discord.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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> attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; Isn't that for showing what game you're running as your status? If you turn that feature off it should stop doing that.

Couldn't you do that by just scanning `px aux` or even just `/proc` rather than running a tool that is meant for observing and control the execution of other processes? A simple name matching should be enough, rather than digging into the execution of the process itself.

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Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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One sticking point for people might be the way push-to-talk works for the in-browser version; the shortcut to trigger it will only work when you have the browser window focused (I think due to limitations in how browsers can capture inputs when not focused, which is a pretty reasonable policy in general). Not only does this mean you'd need to alt-tab over whenever you want to push to talk (which isn't super easy for…

On Linux, I just tested that if you have a Mozilla Firefox window running on X (I tested on XWayland but it should work just as well on X11) with the Discord tab in view, you can use your desktop's/compositor global keyboard shortcut functionality to call xdotool to send a keyup/keydown event without focusing the window , like this: xdotool search --name 'Discord.*— Mozilla Firefox' keydown F9 xdotool search --name '…

> this doesn't work if you're using Discord on Chromium-based browsers […] this doesn't work on Firefox when running native Wayland windows

It seems like a WebExtension using dispatchEvent could solve both these issues.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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There are many problems with discord, and GPU is not the worst one. Discord Snap has to block many unusual activities, but I still see these: * attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; * using 99% CPU; * to work Discord needs some non-standard interfaces to be connected; * Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it. * too frequently restarting desktop integration snap until the lo…

> * attempt to ptrace processes all the time;

There are Discord employees on the thread so I gotta ask.. what's the justification on this one?

Shit like this makes open sourcing the client a must for me

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

#150
post #4

There are many problems with discord, and GPU is not the worst one. Discord Snap has to block many unusual activities, but I still see these: * attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; * using 99% CPU; * to work Discord needs some non-standard interfaces to be connected; * Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it. * too frequently restarting desktop integration snap until the lo…

> * attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time;

This is the one that got it removed from my machine. It runs just fine in the browser so I do that. The feature I lose are ones I don't want anyways.

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