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Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by WheatMillington »

miga wrote: post #4

There are many problems with discord, and GPU is not the worst one. Discord Snap has to block many unusual activities, but I still see these: * attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; * using 99% CPU; * to work Discord needs some non-standard interfaces to be connected; * Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it. * too frequently restarting desktop integration snap until the lo…

Me and my friends started using discord early in its life. It was a joy to get away from Skype, google meet, etc. It was such an elegant solution. Sadly it has become a gigantic, bloated, buggy mess trying to do absolutely everything. I hate it. Can anyone recommend a better solution?

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by robertlagrant »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #79
robertlagrant wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really like them. No need to invite people to a meeting; just jump in. E.g. if you have an issue to diagnose as a group you can just stay on the line, and dip in and out where necessary.

In Teams you can just call the first person up and then add more people into the call. "Jane Doe is calling you from a group chat" or whatever it says. I'm surprised this is a new-ish feature in Slack?

It's hard to explain. You're in a channel already, e.g. your team's channel, and you hit a toggle and it creates a voice chat and others are notified to join. I think it's really slick.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by yamtaddle »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #120
yamtaddle wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of those more-obscure operating systems simply felt like magic. Refresh a webpage on Windows or Linux, mp3 you're playing pops and skips about half the time. Mouse just seemingly-randomly becomes unresponsive. BeOS on the same machine? Hard to load the system enough that playback isn't smooth, and input was only rarely anything other than instant-feeling. Closest I've seen to that recently is iOS, but it cheats…

> Refresh a webpage on Windows or Linux, mp3 you're playing pops and skips about half the time. Not my experience. Windows (and IIRC MacOS too) always had a great disk I/O scheduler that prioritized audio related tasks so I never had mp3s pop or skip on me, no matter how hard I was thrashing my spinning rust disks back then. Linux was the one where I noticed this issue intensely back then as the schedulers used by ma…

To be fair to Windows, it didn't take much more powerful hardware before that problem went away—the mp3 stuttering, anyway, UI lag/unresponsiveness is still struggling to match BeOS on ~every major OS, today. Was all Win98 for me in that era, maybe XP and such improved it (I don't think I ever tried to run it on anything that weak)

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by Animats »

miga wrote: post #4

There are many problems with discord, and GPU is not the worst one. Discord Snap has to block many unusual activities, but I still see these: * attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; * using 99% CPU; * to work Discord needs some non-standard interfaces to be connected; * Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it. * too frequently restarting desktop integration snap until the lo…

Good argument to run Discord in the browser instead.

"Discord is worse with the app".

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by p1necone »

miga wrote: post #4

There are many problems with discord, and GPU is not the worst one. Discord Snap has to block many unusual activities, but I still see these: * attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; * using 99% CPU; * to work Discord needs some non-standard interfaces to be connected; * Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it. * too frequently restarting desktop integration snap until the lo…

> Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it.

You might not want it, but it's not like this is unexpected behaviour. Tracking the currently running game and sharing that information with your friends is an intentional, advertised feature.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by kefka_p »

I must be having a hard time waking up today, or something, because I can’t wrap my brain around why a chat app would need 3D acceleration.

The first chat sites on the web e.g. Bianca’s, Poolside, and Talker were built using more primitive versions of the same interface tools used by electron and while they didn’t have the functionality of video and audio chats, they also didn’t break your GPU driver.

I miss the Unix philosophy at times.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by vxNsr »

robertlagrant wrote: post #132
semi-extrinsic wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Teams you can just call the first person up and then add more people into the call. "Jane Doe is calling you from a group chat" or whatever it says. I'm surprised this is a new-ish feature in Slack?

It's hard to explain. You're in a channel already, e.g. your team's channel, and you hit a toggle and it creates a voice chat and others are notified to join. I think it's really slick.

Teams has that too, you can call groups, or teams, people can pop in and out at will.

Two years ago the multinational company I was working at had a global ransomware attack and we had a teams call for like 7 days straight with check-ins every two hours for everyone but there were on call people in there always if you had specific questions.

It worked really well and made it easy for people to get stuff done and have clear chain of command when everything else was down.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by stonemetal12 »

capableweb wrote: post #32
belltaco wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; Isn't that for showing what game you're running as your status? If you turn that feature off it should stop doing that.

Couldn't you do that by just scanning `px aux` or even just `/proc` rather than running a tool that is meant for observing and control the execution of other processes? A simple name matching should be enough, rather than digging into the execution of the process itself.

I am surprised anti cheats don't detect and ban everyone with discord installed if it is really doing ptrace all the time.

Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed

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Post by Insanity »

WheatMillington wrote: post #131
miga wrote: post #4

There are many problems with discord, and GPU is not the worst one. Discord Snap has to block many unusual activities, but I still see these: * attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; * using 99% CPU; * to work Discord needs some non-standard interfaces to be connected; * Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it. * too frequently restarting desktop integration snap until the lo…

Me and my friends started using discord early in its life. It was a joy to get away from Skype, google meet, etc. It was such an elegant solution. Sadly it has become a gigantic, bloated, buggy mess trying to do absolutely everything. I hate it. Can anyone recommend a better solution?

To pile on (somewhat). I've been enjoying using discord for the chat features. We just have one channel that I use with long-time friends to chat. Recently, we started playing games together (cross play), and Voice Chat _usually_ doesn't work well on the Xbox. I'm not sure if it's an Xbox or Discord issue though, as I'm the only PC gamer and don't have access to an Xbox to debug it :-)
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