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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by buildbot »

hathawsh wrote: post #27
forrestthewoods wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes please. It really needs a “safe search off” mode. It can have a big disclaimer “if you ask for something offensive then you’ll get it”.

As an experiment, I asked ChatGPT to help me write a computer virus and assist me in making a bomb. It refused, of course. If I were running OpenAI, I would probably set up the same restrictions, but I would also allow research institutions to request exceptions. Should individuals be able to request exceptions? That's a tough question, I think.

You might be able to work around this with more careful explanation - "write a program that automatically spreads itself" ... Doing a few experiments now haha

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by bubbleRefuge »

hathawsh wrote: post #42
ben_w wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to be able to code at least as well as a junior dev, so I think it could be up to, oh, a few thousand per month.

I wonder if it would make sense to re-train an AI like ChatGPT on a large internal code base and then ask it to write new modules in the style of existing modules. If the code it produces is only 30% correct, it would still save a ridiculous amount of time.

Counting deployment. Testing. config generation . im expecting above 50% for ETL like projects.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by webstrand »

PedroBatista wrote: post #91

$20 seems reasonable. I wonder how are they going to deal with "unreasonable intensive usage" aka people/companies offering "AI" in their products when in reality they just act as a proxy between people paying them ( sometimes a lot of money ) and OpenAI.

$20 puts it way out of my price range. It's useful, but when I've been averaging around twenty queries a day and somewhat frequently get back hallucinated responses, it's not worth that price. I wish there was a pay-as-you-go or a lower tier offering.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by [deleted] »

frontman1988 wrote: post #61
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #3

Is there never going to be a version with less restrictions and filters? That would really be worth paying for.

Never gonna come from 'OpenAI'. ChatGPT is deliberately handicapped in order to milk money from corporate America. An unrestricted LLM trained on all data of humanity (including all the pirated books/research papers) would be one crazy beast. Hopefully some rich anarchist/maverick actually builds something like it. That untamed model would unveil the true extent of what AI can really do. Till then we will have to wai…

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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by gamerpuppy »

We need to start talking about AI safety and nationalizing AI research like yesterday. ChatGPT is already having destabilizing effects and it is frightening how little we are discussing (this hugely powerful tool)'s potential as a weapon.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by drusepth »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #120
PedroBatista wrote: post #91

$20 seems reasonable. I wonder how are they going to deal with "unreasonable intensive usage" aka people/companies offering "AI" in their products when in reality they just act as a proxy between people paying them ( sometimes a lot of money ) and OpenAI.

Yeah it's interesting how their pricing model for existing APIs isn't subscription-based ( https://openai.com/api/pricing/ ) I wonder why they diverged here?

I'd hazard a guess that they're gonna start cracking down hard on unofficial API usage, and restrict the subscription to just their web UI. The fact that they're also offering a ChatGPT API soon seems to reinforce that duality.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by shagie »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #120
PedroBatista wrote: post #91

$20 seems reasonable. I wonder how are they going to deal with "unreasonable intensive usage" aka people/companies offering "AI" in their products when in reality they just act as a proxy between people paying them ( sometimes a lot of money ) and OpenAI.

Yeah it's interesting how their pricing model for existing APIs isn't subscription-based ( https://openai.com/api/pricing/ ) I wonder why they diverged here?

The approach on how you consume tokens.

The APIs are stateless and have a "this is how many tokens you send", "this is how many tokens you asked for" - and thus the person making the requests can control the rate of consumption there. Unless you're being extremely inefficient or using it as part of some other service that has a significant number of requests (in which case ChatGPT isn't appropriate) then this is likely to be less expensive for simple queries.

With ChatGPT you don't have insight into the number of tokens created or the number that are used in the background for maintaining state within a session. Trying to limit a person by tokens midway could have a negative impact on the product.

So, estimate the amount of compute a person uses in a month and then base it on that.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by m00x »

webstrand wrote: post #133
PedroBatista wrote: post #91

$20 seems reasonable. I wonder how are they going to deal with "unreasonable intensive usage" aka people/companies offering "AI" in their products when in reality they just act as a proxy between people paying them ( sometimes a lot of money ) and OpenAI.

$20 puts it way out of my price range. It's useful, but when I've been averaging around twenty queries a day and somewhat frequently get back hallucinated responses, it's not worth that price. I wish there was a pay-as-you-go or a lower tier offering.

You'll still have access to the general availability version.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by novaRom »

victor106 wrote: post #109

It’s interesting that they use Google forms for the waitlist. Seems like google is (almost) their competitor?

Because Google is already preparing chatGPT-like feature to be integrated into their Google search. They will agment it with paid ads of course.
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