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https://twitter.com/discord/status/1229357198918197248?lang=... > All 3rd party apps or client modifiers are against our ToS, and the use of them can result in your account being disabled. I don't recommend using them.
That's not the TOS. That's a 3 year old tweet with multiple people in the replies asking to cite where in the TOS it says that, and no further reply from the official account.
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Agreed and I’d go a step further and say that this was inevitable with the advent of JavaScript. Humans are lazy (efficient?) and will always gravitate to the easiest tool for the job. If “the job” is just to make a functional chat app, it becomes wildly efficient to simply wrap your web app in electron. I’ve done it to an existing web app and it took less than a day to suddenly have “native” .dmg and .exe to distrib…
Alright so I gotta ask, now that two people are saying they yarn for the days of IRC. I thought maybe it was a different idiom I was missing, but searching for "idiom yarn for" doesn't get me anywhere. Just a typo/misspelling of "yearn"?
I exclusively use Discord in a browser tab. I simply won't use a dedicated app for anything that can be done in a web browser.
I’m the opposite. If there is a well written app on iOS or iPadOS, I’ll use it for the increased privacy protections, lower battery and CPU usage and (sometimes) lower bandwidth consumption. IMHO, mobile operating systems have gotten better than legacy desktop operating systems in a bunch of key areas. But of all the platforms, the web is the worst one. The web has tracking everywhere and often uses a lot of CPU, mem…
Interesting. I discovered just the other night that merely minimizing Discord nets me about a 20 FPS improvement in Factorio. (Even if Discord is otherwise off-screen, which it normally is, as Factorio is fullscreen, and there's no second monitor for me.)
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I yarn for the simpler days of IRC, Pidgin and Skype where these apps ran fine on a 1GHz Pentium 3 chip with 256MB of RAM. Now you need a quad core 3GHz chip and 8GB RAM just to run a chat app reliably. Where did we go wrong?
They ran fine on machines a hell of a lot weaker than that. If you had an actually-good desktop OS (uh, BeOS is the only example I know of—Linux, at the time, couldn't do this, even with minimalist window managers) you could even browse the web, have chat open, and be playing mp3s, and not hear so much as a pop or skip on the music, on a 166MHz Pentium (that's a single core, kiddos) with 128MB (luxury!) of memory.
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> I simply won't use a dedicated app for anything that can be done in a web browser. In 2023, what app experience is still impossible to do in the browser? The only things I can come up with are apps requiring access to outside hardware or files. There are now several entirely unique ways in which a AAA gaming experience could be delivered to a client browser. If we can ship resident evil frames to a Chromebook at 30…
I believe the discord app has some weird limitations around global shortcuts and push-to-talk when you use the browser tab instead of the desktop app. One use case also used to be that you would use a browser tab for one discord account and the desktop app for another, but container tabs + browser profile switching made that less necessary. And then discord eventually added support for multiple accounts.
I think we are just 1 tiny browser API away from this one being solved too.
If we can agree on a way to capture the pointer device, I'm sure we could figure out a reasonable way to capture certain user-defined keys. The actual key that is subscribed to can be abstracted away by using some registration API. I think this would eliminate key logger concerns (you'd have to ask the user for every key on their keyboard) E.g.:
RequestGlobalHotkey('my-hotkey-id', 'Discord Push to Talk');
and then if the user presses it, we call something like OnGlobalHotkey(e) where the arg contains 'my-hotkey-id' and keypress state.
I exclusively use Discord in a browser tab. I simply won't use a dedicated app for anything that can be done in a web browser.
I’m the opposite. If there is a well written app on iOS or iPadOS, I’ll use it for the increased privacy protections, lower battery and CPU usage and (sometimes) lower bandwidth consumption. IMHO, mobile operating systems have gotten better than legacy desktop operating systems in a bunch of key areas. But of all the platforms, the web is the worst one. The web has tracking everywhere and often uses a lot of CPU, mem…
The alternative to using something like Discord on the web is not a well-optimized desktop app that is somehow more respectful w.r.t. tracking than the web version. Same goes for Slack, Zoom, etc. It will still use lots of CPU and memory, and now in addition to tracking you with the techniques available to it in the browser sandbox, it will gleefully list the processes running on your machine, rifle through your files, try to get itself to start up automatically on login, try to get it so that when you "close" it it's still running in the system tray, and generally just make itself at home.
Desktop apps written by devs who first learned to write desktop apps are better than web apps. Desktop apps written by web developers are like demons that have broken through the summoning circle. The browser sandbox doesn't protect you from fingerprinting techniques and the ensuing tracking, but it protects you from a whole lot of other stuff. Take away the sandbox and the shameless data vampires get anything they want.
I exclusively use Discord in a browser tab. I simply won't use a dedicated app for anything that can be done in a web browser.
I’m the opposite. If there is a well written app on iOS or iPadOS, I’ll use it for the increased privacy protections, lower battery and CPU usage and (sometimes) lower bandwidth consumption. IMHO, mobile operating systems have gotten better than legacy desktop operating systems in a bunch of key areas. But of all the platforms, the web is the worst one. The web has tracking everywhere and often uses a lot of CPU, mem…
I think you're correct that desktop operating systems are in sore need of a permissions model for non-free apps. It should be possible to build one, and then shame vendors into using it.
Discord is a fucking bitch.. Find Something interesting, you have to join some Discord to find all the information. So you join the Discord and then you have 100s of channels with chat.. Try to find the information, need a role, I give up. It's almost angering me how terrible this program is, seeing so many people use it. It currently is being abused. Please use Discord for chat, but don't use it as your main platfor…