I exclusively use Discord in a browser tab. I simply won't use a dedicated app for anything that can be done in a web browser.
Likewise, highly recommended
When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed
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Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed
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My friend group started using Discord during the pandemic to continue our previously-in-person RPG sessions. I don't know how people find it tolerable. It'd kill the battery of a Macbook that could handle 6-8 hours of actual work (this is pre-M1) or 10ish hours of playing Netflix or whatever, in 2 hours flat, fans whirring madly the whole time. WTF. And it wasn't just one of us, and it wasn't just Macs, anyone on a b…
It's because a) people want high resolution, and b) software development is cutting corners like building on electron. Lastly, Discord has absolutely the worst software engineering behind it.
It's not about cutting corners. It's about time to effect change. It's about cross device and platform support. It's about it being easier to find developers familiar with the browser stack then native app developer.
That being said I would love to have less memory allocation on my devices when effectively idle too.
Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed
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I use ripcord for discord and slack bonus it's a native app and uses about 20mb of ram.
wow had no idea there were good native apps for discord. im totally gonna try this once im home :))) thx again :)))
This apparently breaks their TOS, but I don't know if anyone got in trouble over it yet
Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed
#24There are many problems with discord, and GPU is not the worst one. Discord Snap has to block many unusual activities, but I still see these: * attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; * using 99% CPU; * to work Discord needs some non-standard interfaces to be connected; * Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it. * too frequently restarting desktop integration snap until the lo…
> attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time;
Isn't that for showing what game you're running as your status? If you turn that feature off it should stop doing that.
Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed
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I yarn for the simpler days of IRC, Pidgin and Skype where these apps ran fine on a 1GHz Pentium 3 chip with 256MB of RAM. Now you need a quad core 3GHz chip and 8GB RAM just to run a chat app reliably. Where did we go wrong?
We went wrong with Electron in particular: https://www.electronjs.org/ . I am convinced this framework alone is responsible for more performance loss on the desktop than any other single thing.
VSCode is an Electron application and yet, while not being lightweight, snappy and efficient, is not a complete piece of garbage.
I think the blame fully falls on the developers of such applications, not on the framework.
Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed
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I use ripcord for discord and slack bonus it's a native app and uses about 20mb of ram.
wow had no idea there were good native apps for discord. im totally gonna try this once im home :))) thx again :)))
Be very careful with third-party discord clients; they are officially against TOS and people have permanently lost their accounts over it.
Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed
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I yarn for the simpler days of IRC, Pidgin and Skype where these apps ran fine on a 1GHz Pentium 3 chip with 256MB of RAM. Now you need a quad core 3GHz chip and 8GB RAM just to run a chat app reliably. Where did we go wrong?
We went wrong with Electron in particular: https://www.electronjs.org/ . I am convinced this framework alone is responsible for more performance loss on the desktop than any other single thing.
Agreed and I’d go a step further and say that this was inevitable with the advent of JavaScript.
Humans are lazy (efficient?) and will always gravitate to the easiest tool for the job. If “the job” is just to make a functional chat app, it becomes wildly efficient to simply wrap your web app in electron.
I’ve done it to an existing web app and it took less than a day to suddenly have “native” .dmg and .exe to distribute.
So when we yarn for the days of IRC, I think we should also yarn for the days when JavaScript was not the de facto language for everything which lowers the bar for development so incredibly low that you are ending up with truly garbage desktop apps that should be written in native windows SDK using C++.
Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed
#28There are many problems with discord, and GPU is not the worst one. Discord Snap has to block many unusual activities, but I still see these: * attempt to `ptrace` processes all the time; * using 99% CPU; * to work Discord needs some non-standard interfaces to be connected; * Discord tries to track which other programs you run by default and shares it. * too frequently restarting desktop integration snap until the lo…
I yarn for the simpler days of IRC, Pidgin and Skype where these apps ran fine on a 1GHz Pentium 3 chip with 256MB of RAM. Now you need a quad core 3GHz chip and 8GB RAM just to run a chat app reliably. Where did we go wrong?
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Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed
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I use ripcord for discord and slack bonus it's a native app and uses about 20mb of ram.
I keep trying to use ripcord, but the reality is a workplace expects you to be able to jump on board every new feature that Slack adds within moments of it's release. Whether that be huddles, threads, recordings, etc. If we could pare our use of Slack down to just text, it would be a great alternative - but until them I'm stuck using the official client.
Is there anything you can't do in slack's web client?
Re: When Discord is open in the background, NVIDIA card will not reach full speed
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
We went wrong with Electron in particular: https://www.electronjs.org/ . I am convinced this framework alone is responsible for more performance loss on the desktop than any other single thing.
VSCode is an Electron application and yet, while not being lightweight, snappy and efficient, is not a complete piece of garbage. I think the blame fully falls on the developers of such applications, not on the framework.
That seems like the exception that proves the rule to me. If every electron application is a bloated CPU/memory hog that ignores the OS conventions, save the one with major corporate resources backing it, that tells me that making electron apps not suck is out of the reach of most developers, and such a thing is probably inherent to the framework.