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Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Post by BowBun »

throwayyy479087 wrote: post #70
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #66

Even if the slippery slope is a logical fallacy, it's important to remember where the staircase of censorship leads.

What about the last decade would lead you to believe the slippery slope is a fallacy? It's less a slope than a cliff.

People love to reference the logical fallacy[1] as though there have been no instances where momentum builds from a series of decisions and cascades in a massive shift. But then again, thinkers like these are happy to comfortably think about the past while many suffer, instead of applying realism towards the future.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Post by rushilhalflife »

freeqaz wrote: post #81
recuter wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're comparing a group chat to an encyclopedia...

I'd describe Twitter as closer to a news site in the modern era. There are a lot of journalists and other important public figures sharing information there, and that's especially true for important live news events like earthquakes. (Twitter is the first place I check if I feel the house shake, for example.)

I'd say it's more a bulletin or news board than a news website itself. Journalists don't work for Twitter and write news articles, they just share it via Twitter as a medium.

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Post by recuter »

factsarelolz wrote: post #74
recuter wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're comparing a group chat to an encyclopedia...

> encyclopedia Encyclopedias are not warped to fit a minority groups opinion like Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is a website, not a trusted source. Not sure when Wikipedia became something more than a crowdsourced opinion site.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Post by nick238 »

zozbot234 wrote: post #102
spankalee wrote: post #89

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Decency laws is too kind of way to put this - they're forcing their religion on others. If countries would stop censoring free speech, we wouldn't have the problem at all.

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For the sake of argument, I'd just ignore what is/isn't a religion and lump it all into "principles" or "beliefs".

That said, (I believe, ha...) there should always be the freedom to not engage with beliefs you find hostile. In the US, the 1st Amendment is critical because you must engage with the government on some level, but you don't need to use Truth Social, 4chan, 8kun, or whatever else.

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Post by linkjuice4all »

freeqaz wrote: post #81
recuter wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're comparing a group chat to an encyclopedia...

I'd describe Twitter as closer to a news site in the modern era. There are a lot of journalists and other important public figures sharing information there, and that's especially true for important live news events like earthquakes. (Twitter is the first place I check if I feel the house shake, for example.)

By this logic the sidewalk in front of a bunch of newspaper vending machines is also a news site.

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Post by welshwelsh »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #24

I can hardly imagine an idea more ridiculous than "blasphemy". The G-d is not a psychologically immature human being easy to offend. Nothing a human might possibly say can change the state of G-d from perfect harmony to anything else.

That's very different from the god described in the bible or the quran.

There was this one time where god got so mad, he flooded the whole earth, killing everyone. He was upset because people weren't worshipping him enough. So basically like Stalin, but worse.

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Post by wesleywt »

zozbot234 wrote: post #102
spankalee wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Decency laws is too kind of way to put this - they're forcing their religion on others. If countries would stop censoring free speech, we wouldn't have the problem at all.

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Where, how, when does Google say there are more that two genders? By the way gender is a spectrum. A narrow spectrum where two genders describes most of the spectrum. But you get exceptions. Maybe being narrow minded is not the way. Expand yourself.

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Post by hnews_account_1 »

nashashmi wrote: post #86
hnews_account_1 wrote: post #46

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They disowned their one Nobel laureate and maybe one of the greatest minds of his generation because of his Islam being different from their Islam. That place is a failed nation. Thank fuck for the internet so the people aren’t insulated from the outside world.

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What bias? I never even mentioned the other Muslim nations. What concern is it of theirs that Abdus existed? His own land disowning him is to their utter and ever lasting shame. This is of the order of the castration of Turing. The neighbouring nation that Pakistan always fights with would’ve gladly accepted him if he’d wanted to switch.

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Post by snowpid »

wesleywt wrote: post #117
zozbot234 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Where, how, when does Google say there are more that two genders? By the way gender is a spectrum. A narrow spectrum where two genders describes most of the spectrum. But you get exceptions. Maybe being narrow minded is not the way. Expand yourself.

I am not necessarily parents opinion and I am also atheist, but no, it depends on your definition on gender and sex. Maybe you should expand yourself.

Re: Pakistani gov degrades Wikipedia connections due to blasphemy

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Post by mynameisvlad »

nimbius wrote: post #62
cactusplant7374 wrote: post #22

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Are there artistic depictions of Muhammed on Wikipedia?

while it may be tempting to condense the concern to the most virulent objections of an extreme, it bears remembrance that Pakistan is the only country to have been created in the name of Islam. the Holy Quran and Sunnah are effectively the books by which this nation is governed, and as such any charge of blasphemy is taken with a seriousness bordering on the academic. this blasphemy charge could stem from any of the…

> it bears remembrance that Pakistan is the only country to have been created in the name of Islam. the Holy Quran and Sunnah are effectively the books by which this nation is governed

Oh so that makes censorship ok? Bigotry is fine too, it’s all in the name of Islam, right?

Why didn’t you say so, that obviously activates the “free from all consequences” card. /s

This is not the catch-all excuse you think it is.

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