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Write simply (2021)

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Re: Write simply (2021)

#11

Also invent words wherever you can: https://twitter.com/chiefchimpanzee/status/16157090455785062...

Actually this is a point if you are not writing in English.

My dad used to do some technical translations and he disliked English namely because you cannot invent words like in Danish or German, where you can just put words together to make a new one.

Re: Write simply (2021)

#12
post #7

> And remember, if you're writing in English, that a lot of your readers won't be native English speakers Just because some readers might not be proficient in English, we have to write plainly to accommodate them? What if they are seeking prose that makes them better at the language? This is a classic symptom of not having read enough literature. There is a visceral beauty in writing, and trying to place conditions o…

I don't think he wants to write simply solely because of this, but rather in order to also satisfy this. Personally, I want to write simply because it makes the end goal clearer for me to express.

Re: Write simply (2021)

#13
post #7

> And remember, if you're writing in English, that a lot of your readers won't be native English speakers Just because some readers might not be proficient in English, we have to write plainly to accommodate them? What if they are seeking prose that makes them better at the language? This is a classic symptom of not having read enough literature. There is a visceral beauty in writing, and trying to place conditions o…

I think he’s assuming some shared context, namely writing for the purpose of educating or persuading people and aiming for engaging as many people as possible with the topic at hand. I don’t think he intends his recommendations to apply to people deliberately writing for a much narrower audience (like dense technical or academic literature) or in a particular artistic style or genre.

Re: Write simply (2021)

#14
post #7

> And remember, if you're writing in English, that a lot of your readers won't be native English speakers Just because some readers might not be proficient in English, we have to write plainly to accommodate them? What if they are seeking prose that makes them better at the language? This is a classic symptom of not having read enough literature. There is a visceral beauty in writing, and trying to place conditions o…

It depends on your end goals. Drawings can be beautiful too but if your goal is to write an instruction manual then you don't want to make something that's open to interpretation.

Re: Write simply (2021)

#15
post #7

> And remember, if you're writing in English, that a lot of your readers won't be native English speakers Just because some readers might not be proficient in English, we have to write plainly to accommodate them? What if they are seeking prose that makes them better at the language? This is a classic symptom of not having read enough literature. There is a visceral beauty in writing, and trying to place conditions o…

In a similar vein, I got to the word "saltimbocca", two paragraphs in, and was painfully and utterly bored.

And frankly, skimming the rest, I found most of the "conclusions" rather insulting. Imagine a world where fancy words can both give a simple idea, as well as provide a deeper meaning to those that look.

Indeed some of the most profound and lasting prose is that which paints a scene in your mind.

So what brings around a better image?

"The room was green".

Great? Do I care? Will that last?

Or

"The hue of the walls enveloped the space in a lush, verdant color. It was a shade that reminiscent of spring meadows and flourishing gardens, invigorating and rejuvenating to the senses. The green was not just a simple tint, but a depth of tone that conveyed life and growth. The room felt fresh and lively, as if it were breathing with the vibrancy of nature itself. The walls seemed to glow in the light, casting a serene aura that made you feel at peace. The color was bold yet calming, creating a space that was both exhilarating and relaxing at the same time."

I want to BE in this room. I can almost smell it.

Re: Write simply (2021)

#16
post #7

> And remember, if you're writing in English, that a lot of your readers won't be native English speakers Just because some readers might not be proficient in English, we have to write plainly to accommodate them? What if they are seeking prose that makes them better at the language? This is a classic symptom of not having read enough literature. There is a visceral beauty in writing, and trying to place conditions o…

I'm convinced there are two broad camps of people: those who see writing merely as a means to an end, those who view it as an artform. The people in the first camp tend to focus on some fabricated idea of concrete meaning (they tend to think the meanings of words are more rigid than they actually are), they emphasize simple words and love economy of prose. They tend to pump out business-speak articles and like using simple metaphors that are temporally bound to the present. They also indulge in what I'd call (in my own business speak) "lite-jargon" --industry terminology in vogue, etc. Most of all, they think writing is purely a vehicle for thought and should require as little work as possible to read and should immediately convey some pristine, concrete insight. They don't really understand how language works. They are thinkers first and writers second.

The other camp values writing in and of itself. They can sense the richness of words, the flexibility of meanings, the pliability of structure. They know that words are not containers of thought but are in fact co-constitutive of thought. They appreciate style and innovation at the level of the text itself. A plain idea put beautifully is more interesting to them than a beautiful idea put plainly. They can appreciate poetry, which is more economical than the bloodless prose those in the first camp worship, and yet far more interesting. When it comes to prose, they desire work that proves its linguistic creativity more than its intention or "meaning". Those in this camp are writers first and thinkers second.

Personally, I find the writing of everyone in the first camp completely agonizing and I lament every article that expounds the benefits of well-oiled plain-jane clarity above all. To me, trying to strive for some ultimate clarity in writing always stunk of massive denial of the fact that meaning is extremely fuzzy in general and that's part of what makes it all fun.

Re: Write simply (2021)

#17
I get that this guy is like rich and famous and founded this website or something so people always post his stuff here but his writing always has this weird veneer of pseudo intellectual philosophy that I find very off putting.

Re: Write simply (2021)

#18
In addition, one thing I personally prefer is having short 'paragraphs'. Two or three sentences, though sometimes even one suffices.

I find long paragraphs a lot harder to read in most written forms, and often 'go to the next line' only to have started that line over again.

For the most part, this article was written that way, whether intentional or not.

Re: Write simply (2021)

#19
Kind of ironic he starts off with "I try to write using ordinary words and simple sentences" then dedicates an entire paragraph to making up an Italian word that really doesn't add anything to his point.
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