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Intel Cuts Employee Pay to Maintain Quarterly Dividend

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Re: Intel Cuts Employee Pay to Maintain Quarterly Dividend

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Layoffs is how to get rid of your worst workers, pay cut is how to get rid of you best.

Layoffs get rid of both ends, as well. Don't fool yourself here.

Yep. First place I worked, they did some layoffs. After that, some of the best people started trickling out.

Re: Intel Cuts Employee Pay to Maintain Quarterly Dividend

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When bailed out banks paid bonuses it was understandably unpopular, but there was a certain logic that retaining talent optimized performance of the remaining bank, and therefore it was ultimately in the interest of taxpayers. It seems surprising that Intel either doesn't think that retaining top talent is in the interest of shareholders, or thinks that investors aren't able to understand the investment. I would assu…

I don’t know who is invested in Intel that's betting on anything but a high risk high reward underdog story comeback. Intel already was undercompensating to the point of driving the talent out of their company to begin with. These wage cuts are a sign for investors to flee faster because management lacks coherence. Management seems to be betting on a strategy of promising the world to gain government subsidies while…

I invested when they announced their ARC GPUs at the height of the chip shortage. Took them so long to deliver it seems like they lost their chance.

Re: Intel Cuts Employee Pay to Maintain Quarterly Dividend

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Even weirder that last year Intel trebled the stock bonus, added a high performer profit bonus adder, and increased base pay by a lot. What a strange about face. What is Pat doing?

Thinking in terms of quarters rather than years or even decades.

Re: Intel Cuts Employee Pay to Maintain Quarterly Dividend

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know who is invested in Intel that's betting on anything but a high risk high reward underdog story comeback. Intel already was undercompensating to the point of driving the talent out of their company to begin with. These wage cuts are a sign for investors to flee faster because management lacks coherence. Management seems to be betting on a strategy of promising the world to gain government subsidies while…

I wonder if they just became terminally risk averse. The thing that made them big is pretty obvious: high-margin premium priced x86 CPUs, which is a position they were able to hold for decades due both to manufacturing excellence and being able to shepherd the standard. They simply can't do it anymore-- execution has stumbled, and the market for x86 is gradually weakening, especially in spaces outside the cut-throat,…

The line-of-business software is quickly turning into a web browser accessing an internal server cluster, and just about any chip can run that nowadays.

Re: Intel Cuts Employee Pay to Maintain Quarterly Dividend

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When bailed out banks paid bonuses it was understandably unpopular, but there was a certain logic that retaining talent optimized performance of the remaining bank, and therefore it was ultimately in the interest of taxpayers. It seems surprising that Intel either doesn't think that retaining top talent is in the interest of shareholders, or thinks that investors aren't able to understand the investment. I would assu…

Or Intel has found cover from other tech shops to 'do the necessary' and prune the dead wood. It's about time the C level began to look at employee performance and contribution to profits or losses.

I think it’s cool watching giant companies fumble over and over strategically but see comments applauding cutting workers. Why would you trust their wisdom on this decision? So weird how this country admires the most dogshit performing executives

Re: Intel Cuts Employee Pay to Maintain Quarterly Dividend

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Layoffs is how to get rid of your worst workers, pay cut is how to get rid of you best.

As pithy two edged maxims go, that is dull and chipped on both sides. Recent layoffs have indiscriminately targeted talent and pay cuts deter those that are primarily driven by returns.

Not true from the anecdotes, and admittedly just anecdotes, that I've seen. Top performers get some token, Approved by Legal™, <2% cut to avoid it being classified as a low performer firing, with a larger but still proportional percent coming from middle performers, and the the vast majority of the layoff percent consisting of low performers.

Re: Intel Cuts Employee Pay to Maintain Quarterly Dividend

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"All employees below Principal Engineer, grades 7 to 11, will get a 5% cut, 10% cuts will be instituted for VPs, and the executive leadership team will take a 15% cut, with Pat Gelsinger taking a 25% cut. " So the OP would rather have Intel fire thousands of employees?

From the headline I would infer OP would rather Intel cut their dividend.

Re: Intel Cuts Employee Pay to Maintain Quarterly Dividend

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"All employees below Principal Engineer, grades 7 to 11, will get a 5% cut, 10% cuts will be instituted for VPs, and the executive leadership team will take a 15% cut, with Pat Gelsinger taking a 25% cut. " So the OP would rather have Intel fire thousands of employees?

>So the OP would rather have Intel fire thousands of employees?

Ah yes - the only option

Re: Intel Cuts Employee Pay to Maintain Quarterly Dividend

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Back in the day at 3Com, Bill Krause used to announce that everyone had to take two days of vacation in the coming quarter. The reason was that he had "promised" Wall Street that we would hit a certain earnings number, and with accounting practices, your accrued PTO is "paid back" when you actually take it.

(The rationale is, they'd have to hire someone to do your job when you're gone, although of course that's nonsense for engineers.)

No one on Wall Street was fooled by crap like this, and I doubt Intel's moves will make any difference, either.

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