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Re: Sharing Your Netflix Account

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Post by dandellion »

andsoitis wrote: post #83
dandellion wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My mom doesn't know how sign up for Neflix, so she's been using my account on her phone for a long time. I only keep the subscription because she uses it, I would have cancelled long ago if it was up to me. I doubt I'm the only one that will just cancel if Netflix stops account sharing, and my mom won't sign up if she has to pay a subscription.

You can just do the sign up for her, no?

Like I said, I'm sure she will not want to pay for Netflix herself, and while I wouldn't mind paying it for her if she'll use it, she probably won't like that either. Part of the reason she's OK with me paying is that she thinks I'd be paying for it anyway and she's just tagging along, but I'm not getting nearly enough value out of it to pay for it, even less to pay for two accounts. I could sign her up without telling her, but I'd rather not. Maybe I'll stop using the account altogether so only my mom is using it and hopefully that doesn't trigger the monthly check-ins for her, but if it does I'll probably just unsubscribe and look for something more convenient.

Re: Sharing Your Netflix Account

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Post by dandellion »

tptacek wrote: post #55
dandellion wrote: post #43

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My mom doesn't know how sign up for Neflix, so she's been using my account on her phone for a long time. I only keep the subscription because she uses it, I would have cancelled long ago if it was up to me. I doubt I'm the only one that will just cancel if Netflix stops account sharing, and my mom won't sign up if she has to pay a subscription.

That's perfectly fine. If your household isn't using Netflix, you should cancel it.

I use it a couple of times a year, the reason I keep it is that my mom likes it, so I'd prefer to keep the status quo going, but if Netflix changes it I probably should cancel it, yes.

Re: Sharing Your Netflix Account

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Post by ZeroCool2u »

tptacek wrote: post #172
ZeroCool2u wrote: post #164

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I'm not sure I agree. If the choices are: I can keep my account and downgrade my plan and then pay for a separate account for my Mom, then they would make about the same or even less money. They certainly won't be getting any ad revenue from either account. I can cancel my account outright and get my content through alternative methods where Netflix is not compensated. It seems to me the choice is obvious here and th…

If your mom is the only user, what is the difference to you?

She's not the _only_ user, it's just that my "households" usage doesn't justify the expense and effort.

Re: Sharing Your Netflix Account

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Post by oliwarner »

jwozn wrote: post #76
BulgarianIdiot wrote: post #65

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So your thesis is that piracy is cheaper. Ok thanks.

Plex isn't necessarily piracy.

I upvoted this because it's technically true, but common "legal" use-cases involve format shifting and that puts you out of bounds straight away, depending on your jurisdiction.

Even if your area allows it for "backups" or interop, you're making it available in multiple locations at once. I'm sure it wouldn't take much to demonstrate this was some sort of performance or other act explicitly disallowed by the EULA. But I'm sure you're just sharing Big Buck Bunny ;)

My point isn't that it's illegal, only that it's disingenuous enough to suggest it is legal. Plex definitely lies in a grey area of tolerated home use, with features that turn it into a piracy nightmare.

Re: Sharing Your Netflix Account

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Post by dogma1138 »

lostphilosopher wrote: post #84

I'm ok with not allowing multi "household" sharing in principle, but I doubt this can be enforced without causing problems for even for single household users and seems like an odd way to handle this. Thinking about travel especially. Restricting the number of currently streaming devices makes way more sense to me and should support "add a screen" up charges. Rather than fighting the "sharing" use case - why not find…

They already are restricting the number of devices and charge you for extra.

Im paying for the 4K plan in the UK which comes with up to 4 devices simultaneously.

We have Netflix installed on the TV, consoles, mine and my other half’s mobile devices and based on the T&C when I signed up it’s ok because it’s a single household.

However I don’t see how they’ll enforce no sharing whilst not breaking existing household account usage.

Re: Sharing Your Netflix Account

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Post by arepublicadoceu »

tptacek wrote: post #173
neogodless wrote: post #170

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Correct. Netflix is making it clear that while they created a 4K, 4-stream plan, and millions subscribed to it, they've changed the terms to add physical geography limitations to an internet content plan. They've changed the terms, and people on the wrong end of that change are unhappy with the change, with good reason. It's not gaslighting to have situations where you pay for something under terms of a contract, and…

Since at least 2019, Netflix has been saying they were going to crack down on password sharing. People who truly believed Netflix was offering them a four household plan for $20/mo have had over 3 years to cancel. Personally, I don't think anybody reasonably believed that was what the plan meant, but either way. Of course the new enforcement is worse for everybody who was exploiting it this way. Any enforcement would…

> Personally, I don't think anybody reasonably believed that was what the plan meant, but either way.

Hey, it's me. A person that reasonably believed that 4 simultaneous screens meant 4 simultaneous screens. Not 4 simultaneous screens on the same household.

I guess, Ask me anything?

Re: Sharing Your Netflix Account

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Post by m-p-3 »

ZeroCool2u wrote: post #38

My Mom lives on the West Coast while we live on the East. She's almost 70 and on a fixed income, so I pay for Netflix access for all of us and I'm happy to do so. However, if they block her access I can't see any reason to keep my 4k plan. I can get anything we want on a Plex server and give her whatever she wants to watch that way. I was already on the fence with the lack of content on Netflix, but this may just be…

Same situation here. I think I'll just cancel, put the subscription money I save into a fund to maintain and upgrade my home server.

Re: Sharing Your Netflix Account

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

BulgarianIdiot wrote: post #65
ZeroCool2u wrote: post #38

My Mom lives on the West Coast while we live on the East. She's almost 70 and on a fixed income, so I pay for Netflix access for all of us and I'm happy to do so. However, if they block her access I can't see any reason to keep my 4k plan. I can get anything we want on a Plex server and give her whatever she wants to watch that way. I was already on the fence with the lack of content on Netflix, but this may just be…

So your thesis is that piracy is cheaper. Ok thanks.

Yeah it was less convenient and now it will be more convenient.

Re: Sharing Your Netflix Account

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Post by BulgarianIdiot »

nscalf wrote: post #143
mc32 wrote: post #114

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I think that's a bit unfair. Businesses go through business cycles. I never worked there, nor have insight (obviously) but you know the business climate changes, your competitors change and you have to adjust or experience consequences. Sometimes you need to grow subscriptions, sometimes you need to grow revenue, sometimes you have more flexibility, and sometimes less (Netflix has to re-enter agreements with content…

Once you go public you have no option other than to just grow at all costs. The cost of Netflix pushing growth is turning consumer sentiment against them by cracking down on account sharing and pushing ads into the service. Netflix had a gross profit of $12.44B in 2022. Why not preserve the large, successful business that consumers have a high opinion of instead of push for further profits? The truth is that Netflix…

> Once you go public you have no option other than to just grow at all costs.

Nothing grows forever, so in fact this "grow at all costs" mentality forces many otherwise healthy companies that could maintain a nice break-even with some dividend to pay into doing stupid short-term thinking and desperate financial engineering and then in time collapse and go into bankruptcy.

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