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They went on to explain that positive feedback/compliments weren’t helpful to them because they couldn’t grow from it. The starkness of the statement was what I needed to recognize it.
I’d like to offer an alternative framing: don’t debate at all, just listen. While high school debate did teach me many positive lessons and I am thankful that I spent four years of my life doing it, many years later I have come to understand that it also taught me something truly negative: that the point of a conversation is to win. I have put a lot of time in my adult life unlearning that trait, and reflecting on th…
Deliberately slowing conversations down to one 100th of their normal pace might produce some interesting results. In a sense, this is one of the techniques that science uses, and it seems to reliably produce excellent outcomes in fairly complicated problem spaces.
> The Hindu explains why poverty doesn’t upset her. So according to the author me and my community are not upset by poverty and hence are not doing anything to fix it. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/india-lifted... https://gdc.unicef.org/resource/report-india-lifted-271-mill... Who is this author again and why are people listening to a charlatan like him?
I think you're extrapolating. Author is very clearly just talking about an individual, not a group. No need to get outraged.
How peculiar that every "debate" this person has lost is in the same ideological direction. How would this person respond to: - the Christian explaining that the resurrection of Jesus is a historical fact? - the prosecutor describing the heinous crimes of the people she's put behind bars? - the sibling of an addict denouncing opiates & opioids, meth, crack and the drug trade? Where's the limit for this person when en…
> The Hindu explains why poverty doesn’t upset her. So according to the author me and my community are not upset by poverty and hence are not doing anything to fix it. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/india-lifted... https://gdc.unicef.org/resource/report-india-lifted-271-mill... Who is this author again and why are people listening to a charlatan like him?
No, not you and your community. He said no such thing. Don't put words into other people's mouth.
I’d like to offer an alternative framing: don’t debate at all, just listen. While high school debate did teach me many positive lessons and I am thankful that I spent four years of my life doing it, many years later I have come to understand that it also taught me something truly negative: that the point of a conversation is to win. I have put a lot of time in my adult life unlearning that trait, and reflecting on th…
> I never want to debate, but if I had to, I would hope to lose.
I’d like to offer an alternative framing: don’t debate at all, just listen. While high school debate did teach me many positive lessons and I am thankful that I spent four years of my life doing it, many years later I have come to understand that it also taught me something truly negative: that the point of a conversation is to win. I have put a lot of time in my adult life unlearning that trait, and reflecting on th…
I’d like to offer an alternative framing: don’t debate at all, just listen. While high school debate did teach me many positive lessons and I am thankful that I spent four years of my life doing it, many years later I have come to understand that it also taught me something truly negative: that the point of a conversation is to win. I have put a lot of time in my adult life unlearning that trait, and reflecting on th…
There is nothing more tedious in adult life than some debate club weenie trying to turn every random fucking conversation into a debate. I strongly suspect debate club has a net negative impact on peoples social skills. It teaches a bunch of anti patterns to successful social interactions. Like, you will be shooting the shit with the lads down pub the once or twice you see them per year when this dickhead (and every…
There are surely former debaters who still feel the need to prove themselves to their friends and colleagues and will go out of their way to seek an argument. It is a competitive activity and so it attracts competitive types. But part of the process of becoming a well-adjusted adult, and yes, debaters all go through that process too in time, is recognizing where and when their skills are welcome.
People don't change their minds as a result of debates, thus it's impossible to win or lose a debate.
What the author talks about isn't a debate, but rather learning.