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Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#282

The answer is no, people who say yes are wrong. You black out your website to raise awareness to the cause. I think it is a fair bet that an extremely high number of HN users know a lot about SOPA / PIPA. So there is no point doing this to educate regulars. Perhaps news will spread. Sure, it will spread in the tech community. In the tech community knowledge of SOPA / PIPA is well known. Shock waves from HN being blac…

I initially agreed with you. Pragmatically, as everyone said, HN already is aware of SOPA, shutting it down will be useless. However, at an ideological level (we want internet freedom), the tech community must manifest its protest in a form of coordinated show of disapproval, we cannot be silently and passively opposed to something, and expect the bill not to pass. The OWS movement would be the obvious example of such coordinated "show".

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#284
The vast majority of HN users are aware of SOPA/PIPA so it wouldn't have almost any impact. There's no need for HN to go dark. Sites where most of the people are not aware of SOPA/PIPA, like wikipedia, facebook, twitter, google, youtube, maybe 9gag... should go dark, at least for some hours.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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post #199

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The world doesn't give a toss or have an iota of awareness about HN. Blacking out HN would be like switching off your computer in the privacy of your own home. Nobody knows or cares. All that would achieve is to remove an important vector for communication and information spread in the tech community.

I'm English and would be annoyed if a site I used vanished for a reason that is nothing to do with me. You don't like what your govt is doing, vote it out.

That's been working great lately.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world doesn't give a toss or have an iota of awareness about HN. Blacking out HN would be like switching off your computer in the privacy of your own home. Nobody knows or cares. All that would achieve is to remove an important vector for communication and information spread in the tech community.

I'm English and would be annoyed if a site I used vanished for a reason that is nothing to do with me. You don't like what your govt is doing, vote it out.

Is this guy serious? Ok, let's taylor the entire Internet to him. I would hate it if he became "annoyed". Oh and BTW, it's clearly an easy solution... let's just "vote it out".

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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post #234

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If you must black it out, black it out for the USAians. Some of us don't have members in Congress to write to.

How many people on HN aren't capable of easily getting around regional restrictions for websites?

This is a voluntary block, not a forced 'great firewall of china' block.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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post #241

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Easy ways to take some actions: https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/112/hr3261 click on 'Oppose' https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/112/s968 click on 'Oppose' Slightly harder: http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/pipa_sopa (Sends modifiable form email to your Senator and Representative). Add a comments to the PopVOX entries Go viral and tweet/facebook/G+ the DemandProgress page. Harder still: - Lookup your Senator and Repre…

You can always add a POPVOX widget to the site, so people can send a message to Congress directly from HN. http://popvoxnation.tumblr.com/post/15753030372/protesting-s...

And this fun one: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/oe3mf/these_61_sen...

Calling out for Redditors to distributively discuss PIPA with senators.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#289
It should change in the regions of the world that will be affected by SOPA; rather than going dark, display a pseudo government notice about the site being closed to citizens, and below that give instructions on how you can circumvent it and see HN, in exactly the way people will circumvent SOPA when it arrives. People get to see HN, and awareness is raised, and everyone gets to learn how to circumvent it.
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