I want to lose every debate
sive.rs
I want to lose every debate
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#2I wish debating skills were taught better in schools. A lot of people see debates as a personal attack on themselves and are set to win, no matter the cost. Then comes every dirty manipulation, trick and foul play. This is infuriating.
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#3Great perspective.
This is why I love browsing HN. Despite its relatively homogeneous userbase, people manage to stay civil when they disagree
Elsewhere it's harder, but it still happens.
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#4Derek's right here. Being willing to be wrong is one of the best ways to grow. I have a lot of strong opinions and a lot of knowledge, and I used to think that meant I had to be an absolute warrior defending my side of an argument. Turns out you're stronger if you're willing to consider that you don't know everything.
Yet another Derek Sivers post that makes me think he's a freaking genius.
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#5Usually losing the debate means losing to the pig who has better experience. I prefer to just avoid debates. they tend to never be productive except maybe in academia. A common criticism you see online is people avoiding debate and blocking, but consider that usually this is from being tired of bad faith, obtuseness, etc. At some point, patience runs thin. You don't have time for the one or two good, productive debate out of dozens bad, pointless ones, so blocking or ignoring is easier. And no one changes their mind anyway.
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#6> The sex worker explains why she loves her job.
I'm not going to comment on the other stuff, but we should stop with the sociopathic neo-liberal glorification of "sex work", which in the majority of cases is just human trafficking.
I come from a town in Eastern Europe where one of the local mob guys has been caught with trafficking hundreds of (I guess mostly local) girls in Spain. I'm pretty sure many of those girls, if asked, would have told a nice story of "I earn good money out of this! It's liberating!" to any Westerner techie client who would have bothered to ask, what else could have they said? They were still the victims of human trafficking.
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#7Ah, the good old cognitive dissonance between striving to be right and the higher goal of learning and progressing as humanity. For those interested, I recommend this article from Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/maybe-its-just-me/...
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#8It requires energy to pay attention to others and walk in their shoes. Attaching a stereotypical label and switching off / ending the debate is the low cost option
Ergo, we must reclaim quality time for engaging with others if we want to live in quality societies
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#9I would say that more importantly than winning or losing a debate is to know which debate you should participate.
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#10Listening and taking someone's point of view has nothing to do with debating. When you're actually listening, you're not debating anymore. It's a life skill.