> A settlement has been reached with Google LLC, Google Ireland Limited, Google Commerce Limited, Google Asia Pacific Pte. Limited, and Google Payment Corp. (“Google”) in an antitrust class action lawsuit about the Google Play store. The lawsuit was brought by U.S. app developers. The lawsuit alleged that Google monopolized (or attempted to monopolize) alleged markets related to the distribution of Android OS apps an…
so I recently say an image of a paper check that was issued for an equifax data breach class action lawsuit settlement and it was for something like $5.71.
That's always bothered me too. I think someone should be forced to admit to wrongdoing, or else keep battling in court to prove their side. That said, how does Google monopolize Android app distribution? You're free to install APKs yourself. So why isn't Apple being prosecuted? There's no such ability on that platform. Why does it always feel like Google is constantly being hounded about stuff that Apple gets off sco…
Isn't paying a fine technically an admission that the accusations are correct, and the compensation is due?
I get your point, but in that case, I'd rather see it go to court and the patent get invalidated. While settling might be good for the settling parties, it doesn't stop patent troll from making more frivolous suites, and I don't think it is better for society as a whole. Just to be clear I don't think settlements are always bad. But there are definitely cases (in both directions), where settlements result in a worse…
I distinctly recall cheering on old Newegg when a patent troll accidentally sued them. Newegg said they would be taking the issue to court, and actually prevented the patent troll from backing out of the suit, IIRC.
Subdomain to avoid polluting the .gov namespace too much. States could do similar; settlements.ny.gov. I’m tired of the “phishing or real?” game with these things.
Your original comment suggests you are proposing: [class action identifier].settlements.gov Parent is asking why not: settlements.gov/[class action identifier] Using a different page rather than subdomain wouldn’t have any real phishing downsides and would avoid polluting DNS entirely, so seems better.
Wildcard can avoid the dns polluting. The domain prefix stands out a bit more and let’s them have their own cookies.
That's always bothered me too. I think someone should be forced to admit to wrongdoing, or else keep battling in court to prove their side. That said, how does Google monopolize Android app distribution? You're free to install APKs yourself. So why isn't Apple being prosecuted? There's no such ability on that platform. Why does it always feel like Google is constantly being hounded about stuff that Apple gets off sco…
I would much prefer if more people settled their disputes without going to court. If they go to court and settle later, that's less great but still more productive than years of litigation. >So why isn't Apple being prosecuted? They had a nearly identical settlement in 2021 [1], main difference is that the Google settlement applies to developers with revenues up to $2 million in a year while the Apple one is up to $1…
Hmm, I was notified today about Google settlement. We sold our app on Apple for the same period (2017-) in the same <1M range, and this is the first I've heard about the Apple settlement. The website said everything is over and by doing nothing and being part of the class I've waived my rights to everything, but seems odd given I wasn't notified. Is there anything I can do?
Genuine question: how was Apple rarely sued in similar fashion? Not just compared to Android/Google, but also the way they bundle programs in their operating systems, compared to Microsoft browser case in the US/EU. To my untrained eyes, they're worse in almost every aspect. Is it just the boring answer "they have better lawyers", or are there things fundamentally different?
In this case, Apple was sued in a similar fashion and settled in a similar fashion. The settlement website: https://smallappdeveloperassistance.com/ Summary of the settlement: https://www.macrumors.com/2021/08/26/app-store-changes-devel...
The apple settlement is extremely similar to the Google one. You have to click around to see the terms Google agreed to.
Funny that when apple announced the changes, they made it sound like they were being altruistic.
Your original comment suggests you are proposing: [class action identifier].settlements.gov Parent is asking why not: settlements.gov/[class action identifier] Using a different page rather than subdomain wouldn’t have any real phishing downsides and would avoid polluting DNS entirely, so seems better.
Wildcard can avoid the dns polluting. The domain prefix stands out a bit more and let’s them have their own cookies.
I didn't consider the lets them have their own cookies part, but I kinda like it, however I don't really know why other than I like separations of concerns. Why do you prefer that, and what scenarios have necessitated that in the past if you don't mind me asking?
I distinctly recall cheering on old Newegg when a patent troll accidentally sued them. Newegg said they would be taking the issue to court, and actually prevented the patent troll from backing out of the suit, IIRC.
How could they have accidentally sued someone?
If I had to guess, in the general sense: when you run your mouth to the point of making legal threats, the person or firm you're threatening will start actual legal proceedings themselves because they think (or know) you're full of shit.
It's worth noting that that's not at all what Newegg claims happened.[0] So "accidentally" in this case is probably more accurately states as biting off more than one can chew.
What alternative is there? For the court to say to both parties, “no, you’re not allowed to come to this mutually agreeable resolution. Keep paying lawyers to litigate this and keep using up the court’s time.” ? I mean… maybe there’d an idea in there, but I’m not sure it’s practical.
> What alternative is there? No need to find an alternative. Same outcome but remove the "Ok, sure I'm guilty, but I don't admit to actually doing it". If you agree to lose the case, agree that you're in the wrong.
It is more like: instead of paying $X for lawyers and waste time in court, business would rather pay $Y and settle the case.
Sure, I think it's clear that settlements work from a game theory perspective, in the sense that two rational actors working for their own best interest can accept one. But the larger question is about whether this state of affairs is good for society . As citizens of a democracy, we (theoretically) get to have a say in how courts are run, and if the way the courts are run permits wealthy corporations to buy their wa…
> As citizens of a democracy, we (theoretically) get to have a say in how courts are run That’s not the point of civil cases between 2 private parties. If you want your say, call your congress person and vote for platforms which intend to introduce legislation. (Or whichever process your country uses). Not every proceeding has to be about deciding good vs evil. Things have their place.
You neglect that civil trials often result in relevant case law, which benefits society when similar actionable events occur. This is a clear benefit to society which settling cases destroys. Legislation is the start of the law, judicial interpretation is the implementation and will of it. This too applies to civil cases to which the state is a party - if you want to avoid any possibility of creating case law, binding arbitration is what you desire. If you want the power and will of the people to solve and enforce the solution to your civil problem, you owe the people something also.