This reminds me of a pretty crude and unworkable site I launched in college called TheRatio. This was in 2000, before smartphones. The idea was to have people at bars in Manhattan and Brooklyn text a rough male to female ratio they were seeing, which would be aggregated so you could check the website (from your, ahem, computer) for which bars to go to before you went out for the night. I thought it was sort of clever at the time. (It was also just one of my first experiments in learning PHP and SQL). It just seems kind of crass and sophomoric, looking back, and in light of the info-commodification of sexual attraction like HotOrNot and Tinder that were on the horizon. I guess in my defense, I'd say I literally was a Sophomore, and that's what most 21 year old guys are thinking about. And that was for bars. Leveraging university course equality data and making it about classes would have struck me even then as douchey if not nefarious.
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#352Bill Gates and Paul Allen were doing something similar decades ago. According to https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35442969 (but well known before that): > Paul Allen, who would later become a co-founder of Microsoft, was a couple of years above Gates at school. Together they fixed the school scheduling software to ensure Gates was the only boy in classes of girls.
Sergey Brin too, with company massage rooms at early Google. As others have pointed out, it's also how Facebook was started. Sometimes I look back at my youth, and think about how I used to view technology: as a democratizing force which could tear down artificial barriers. Then I look around today and wonder what happened. It makes sense, though, if you look closely at the founding fathers of big tech.
And it's still a thing at SpaceX, seemingly.
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#353Earlier quoted context omitted.
>And the classroom is a place to learn. eHarmony last I checked is not a classroom so can you explain to me what exactly was the point of your comparison? It's literally an apples to oranges point you're making. This was in response to a user who said "the intention behind joining in the first place is what matters". My point is that having an intention to meet your future spouse is not bad. >And the classroom is a p…
So just to establish: You would be okay with someone say, joining a company with the explicit purpose of dating and not doing their work, yeah? Like they join the company, do nothing except look for women to date. Not only that, but if management found out they would not be allowed to fire them.
>So just to establish: You would be okay with someone say, joining a company with the explicit purpose of dating and not doing their work, yeah?
Getting a job and then not doing your work makes you a shitty employee, and being a shitty employee is bad. You're violating the spirit of your employment contract, that your employer gives you money and you do work for them in return.
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#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
Birth rates are tanking because of increased access to contraceptives and people having the wealth and freedom to enjoy their 20s and 30s unburdened by children
My wife and I are having a very hard time convincing ourselves to have kids for exactly this reason. We're wealthy, free to pursue our hobbies, and advance in our careers. Nobody's body is getting wrecked, nobody's free time and sleep is getting upended, and it's generally a Very Good Time. Both having kids and not having kids feels selfish for different reasons. It's hard to really feel like there's a right answer h…
What argument is there for "not having kids" being selfish? I guess by the strictest definition, it means you're taking time for yourself over some hypothetical child? But to me, selfishness requires someone you're harming by doing so, and that child doesn't exist, so there is no harm.
For what it's worth, my partner and I have made the same decision. We're not having children. It's already too difficult to buy a home here in Brisbane, let alone with the spectre of climate change related problems in the future. And, more to the point, we love our lives as-is!
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#355This smells like a fake story created for trolling purposes.
Trolling, or they have an actual app they're trying to advertise.
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#356Earlier quoted context omitted.
Less attractive girls get less male attention no matter what. Why would it be any more demoralizing if that attention comes with tutoring? Why would it be distracting? It seems everyone is complaining except the girls getting tutored. And if they did complain, if some guy was pushy or wouldn't take no for an answer, then deal with him the same as any other such guy - that they're attending a class for the sake of dat…
It would be demoralizing because your attractiveness shouldn’t factor into whether you can get academic help
Upperclass men are not the only source of academic help and if they were then there would be significantly greater problems.
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#357Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wanting to spend more time with women is misogynistic? I don't want to whip out the dictionary definition of that word, but in what way does choosing classes to spend more time with women (because your existing classes are full of guys) mean you hate women ?
If you are someone who genuinely enjoys the company of women over the company of men, then I agree that it is not misogynistic. But that isn't really what we are talking about. The average hypothetical man choosing his class or major because of how many women are in it isn't looking to make female friends. He just wants to surround himself with a higher percentage of people that he is sexually attracted to.
Are you saying that being sexually attracted to women is misogynistic?
I assume you're not saying that, but you're not explaining why this behavior is misogynistic. At best, you might mean that if a man is sexually attracted to women, and he seeks out the company of women, then he must believe that women are sexual objects made strictly for his personal pleasure. Is that what you're trying to say?
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#358People can tsk tsk this, but it's damn hard to find a mate if you are not in the top 20% of (straight) men, and basically requires you to be aggressive like this. You may be praised for being a "nice guy" by being passive, but it will not get you dates.
For anyone experiencing this drawback, consider not calling your prospective cuddlybear a "mate" or leering at them when auditing their classes.
I'm curious why you interpreted the GP's comment this way. In my experience "find a mate" typically means "find a life partner". This is similar to the usage of the term in the original article ("future wife"). I see no reason to think that someone who says "it's hard to find a mate" would leer at someone or call someone they barely know their "mate" prior to being in a serious relationship.
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#359Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, you just to treat women with respect. The issue here is intention. The intention here is not about teaching or learning in the class. But its using that pretence in fact distrupting the intention of the class and people there. How do you like your intention distrupted? How about by unattractive slobs who are objectifying you and trying to be "helpful" and trying tricks they found on internet If someone is trying…
I don't think that taking a class to get to know single women of your own age is disrespectful. Do we know they are objectifying? The post said this was about finding a future wife.
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#360Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see that implication being made and I have trouble believing anyone could read that into the above in good faith. The linked questions mentions that this has created an uncomfortable environment for female undergraduates -- but no allegations of illegal behavior.
According to one person anyway. We haven’t surveyed the class, correct?
> According to one person anyway. We haven’t surveyed the class, correct?
No, according to the complainants, there has been no unwanted advances.
IOW, the people who object to this have said that there have been no unwanted advances. Why are you assuming that poor behaviour won't be reported by the complainants when they complain?