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Re: Need help with students who've turned my class into a dating service

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Ingenious and hilarious. Trying to shut it down is probably going to create more interest, Streisand effect type thing. I would leave it to burn out on it's own. It sounds like a net positive on the whole. Hard to tell if there is really a problem here. "a number of female students" reached out to her with concerns, but "a few fellow profs either find it comical, or are happy that open labs are so full of volunteer t…

I agree that shutting it down would likely backfire if the prof tries to shut it down too aggressively, but I don't know that I follow the conclusion that this is mostly a positive. There's some selective minimizing of the students that feel uncomfortable and maximizing of what some of the faculty think: ~Sure, some female students feel weird about guys in their class pretending to be in the instructor so that they c…

If you eliminate the chance of someone feeling uncomfortable you also eliminate a lot of good interactions.

If there are only a few people uncomfortable with this and there is no harassment, that seems like it's probably fine overall.

Re: Need help with students who've turned my class into a dating service

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This seems like an extremely low yield way to get female attention. A male engineering student would have to take an entire class, study new material, and come up with schemes for seeming like a "chad" for the unlikely chance that the opposite gender will be impressed with him. They could spend that time building cool things. Are people really this desperate?

> A male engineering student would have to take an entire class, study new material, and come up with schemes for seeming like a "chad" for the unlikely chance that the opposite gender will be impressed with him

not if you audit the class, which is what the post explains

Re: Need help with students who've turned my class into a dating service

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> This might be hard, as no unwanted advances are taking place. We simply have students excelling at the course, and drawing-in a crowd. I should've been more clear with my "leching" comment. Still, it seems harassing in nature. It seems increasingly that society demands a world where dating only happens during designated and approved dating times and venues, and outside those strictly delimited places, men are to be…

That will not lead to a drop in fertility. Infact, that's exactly how high fertility societies operate. At least the Islamic ones, like Afghanistan for example, where the population doubled since 2001. Fertility has been dropping since the 80s, long before anything to do with wokeism or meetoo or whatever.

I don't think the population is doubling in Afghanistan because of segregated school classes. There might be another confounding factor you're forgetting...

Re: Need help with students who've turned my class into a dating service

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> This might be hard, as no unwanted advances are taking place. We simply have students excelling at the course, and drawing-in a crowd. I should've been more clear with my "leching" comment. Still, it seems harassing in nature. It seems increasingly that society demands a world where dating only happens during designated and approved dating times and venues, and outside those strictly delimited places, men are to be…

There are appropriate times and places to pork yourself out, academia is not one of them. Go pork yourself after you've "punched out".

This has to be one of the worst pieces of dating advice ever written. Universities are one of the best places to meet people as a student.

Re: Need help with students who've turned my class into a dating service

#156
I suspect that if the situation in this class became well-known on campus, enrollment of both men and women would increase.

Maybe my perception is based on outdated knowledge. My own experience as an undergraduate was two generations ago. What I remember was that choosing classes to increase your chance of meeting good dating material was common with both sexes.

Re: Need help with students who've turned my class into a dating service

#157

It's so weird to see people defend this because this seems like fairly textbook power harassment. If this was to occur at work where some managers were organizing their pods or such so that they're the only man in a group of women for the sake of dating it would clearly be seen as a problem. If the story is true, people auditing courses should be treated with a higher level of responsibility. Giving preferential trea…

>fairly textbook power harassment I thought "power harassment" is when you have power over someone. How does auditing a course give you power over fellow students? >the intention behind joining in the first place is what matters What's wrong with having an intention of finding someone to marry? Suppose a woman signs up for eHarmony with the intention of meeting her future husband -- is that problematic?

> How does auditing a course give you power over fellow students?

I believe the logic is that the upperclassmen have more knowledge of the subject and therefor have more power to help others do well in the class.

I've definitely had classes with annoying fellow students, but I never felt that I needed to study with anyone that I didn't feel comfortable studying with.

Re: Need help with students who've turned my class into a dating service

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post #43

> This might be hard, as no unwanted advances are taking place. We simply have students excelling at the course, and drawing-in a crowd. I should've been more clear with my "leching" comment. Still, it seems harassing in nature. It seems increasingly that society demands a world where dating only happens during designated and approved dating times and venues, and outside those strictly delimited places, men are to be…

There is a strong correlation with a puritanical culture having much higher birth rates than a sexually permissive one, so I don't think that is the reason.

Re: Need help with students who've turned my class into a dating service

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Bill Gates and Paul Allen were doing something similar decades ago. According to https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35442969 (but well known before that): > Paul Allen, who would later become a co-founder of Microsoft, was a couple of years above Gates at school. Together they fixed the school scheduling software to ensure Gates was the only boy in classes of girls.

And Zuckerberg. All sorts of creepy disembodied men do this kind of thing!

Zuckerberg's case is arguably even worse (though I completely agree otherwise). If I recall he created a way for harvard guys to rate their female peers appearances and had some pretty disparaging comments on the site itself.

Re: Need help with students who've turned my class into a dating service

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post #43

> This might be hard, as no unwanted advances are taking place. We simply have students excelling at the course, and drawing-in a crowd. I should've been more clear with my "leching" comment. Still, it seems harassing in nature. It seems increasingly that society demands a world where dating only happens during designated and approved dating times and venues, and outside those strictly delimited places, men are to be…

There are appropriate times and places to pork yourself out, academia is not one of them. Go pork yourself after you've "punched out".

1. I don't actually know what "pork yourself out" means.

2. Why is porking yourself out at work more appropriate than academia?

3. What if you stay in academia your entire life?

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