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Re: Google Play Developer Antitrust Litigation

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Post by cma »

dmitrygr wrote: post #6
midoridensha wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's always bothered me too. I think someone should be forced to admit to wrongdoing, or else keep battling in court to prove their side. That said, how does Google monopolize Android app distribution? You're free to install APKs yourself. So why isn't Apple being prosecuted? There's no such ability on that platform. Why does it always feel like Google is constantly being hounded about stuff that Apple gets off sco…

> has far more marketshare Android maintained its position as the leading mobile operating system worldwide in the fourth quarter of 2022, controlling the mobile OS market with a close to 71.8 percent share, while iOS accounted for around 27.6 percent of the mobile operating system market.Jan 17, 2023 https://www.statista.com/statistics/272698/global-market-sha... .

The iOS dollar share of the app market is still higher I believe.

Re: Google Play Developer Antitrust Litigation

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Post by ceejayoz »

nine_k wrote: post #10
midoridensha wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's always bothered me too. I think someone should be forced to admit to wrongdoing, or else keep battling in court to prove their side. That said, how does Google monopolize Android app distribution? You're free to install APKs yourself. So why isn't Apple being prosecuted? There's no such ability on that platform. Why does it always feel like Google is constantly being hounded about stuff that Apple gets off sco…

Isn't paying a fine technically an admission that the accusations are correct, and the compensation is due?

A settlement isn't a fine.

Re: Google Play Developer Antitrust Litigation

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Post by water-your-self »

dmitrygr wrote: post #6
midoridensha wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's always bothered me too. I think someone should be forced to admit to wrongdoing, or else keep battling in court to prove their side. That said, how does Google monopolize Android app distribution? You're free to install APKs yourself. So why isn't Apple being prosecuted? There's no such ability on that platform. Why does it always feel like Google is constantly being hounded about stuff that Apple gets off sco…

> has far more marketshare Android maintained its position as the leading mobile operating system worldwide in the fourth quarter of 2022, controlling the mobile OS market with a close to 71.8 percent share, while iOS accounted for around 27.6 percent of the mobile operating system market.Jan 17, 2023 https://www.statista.com/statistics/272698/global-market-sha... .

In the united states apple has approx. 50% market share

Re: Google Play Developer Antitrust Litigation

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Post by capableweb »

elefanten wrote: post #9
capableweb wrote: post #2

> A settlement has been reached with Google LLC, Google Ireland Limited, Google Commerce Limited, Google Asia Pacific Pte. Limited, and Google Payment Corp. (“Google”) in an antitrust class action lawsuit about the Google Play store. The lawsuit was brought by U.S. app developers. The lawsuit alleged that Google monopolized (or attempted to monopolize) alleged markets related to the distribution of Android OS apps an…

If the expected value of (the cost of defending vs the accusation + the cost of losing the defense) is sufficiently greater than $100, it makes sense to pay the $100.

So the judicial system is just another version of the financial system, another extension of capitalism rather than being about actual justice?

Re: Google Play Developer Antitrust Litigation

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Post by Waterluvian »

capableweb wrote: post #2

> A settlement has been reached with Google LLC, Google Ireland Limited, Google Commerce Limited, Google Asia Pacific Pte. Limited, and Google Payment Corp. (“Google”) in an antitrust class action lawsuit about the Google Play store. The lawsuit was brought by U.S. app developers. The lawsuit alleged that Google monopolized (or attempted to monopolize) alleged markets related to the distribution of Android OS apps an…

What alternative is there? For the court to say to both parties, “no, you’re not allowed to come to this mutually agreeable resolution. Keep paying lawyers to litigate this and keep using up the court’s time.” ?

I mean… maybe there’d an idea in there, but I’m not sure it’s practical.

Re: Google Play Developer Antitrust Litigation

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Post by eric-hu »

capableweb wrote: post #2

> A settlement has been reached with Google LLC, Google Ireland Limited, Google Commerce Limited, Google Asia Pacific Pte. Limited, and Google Payment Corp. (“Google”) in an antitrust class action lawsuit about the Google Play store. The lawsuit was brought by U.S. app developers. The lawsuit alleged that Google monopolized (or attempted to monopolize) alleged markets related to the distribution of Android OS apps an…

Consider a similar case where you probably favor the defendants. Random patent troll company registered in Texas files 1000's of lawsuits against companies that it alleges infringes on a trivial patent, i.e. one click checkout. All companies settle because the cost of going to court is greater than the requested settlement amount of $500k. Should we also see these companies admit that they infringed on (likely frivolous) patents?

Re: Google Play Developer Antitrust Litigation

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Post by ceejayoz »

capableweb wrote: post #14
elefanten wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the expected value of (the cost of defending vs the accusation + the cost of losing the defense) is sufficiently greater than $100, it makes sense to pay the $100.

So the judicial system is just another version of the financial system, another extension of capitalism rather than being about actual justice?

Civil litigation between two private parties? Yes.

Criminal litigation, or the SEC/EPA/FEC/etc. going after someone for a civil violation? Less (although variably) so.

Re: Google Play Developer Antitrust Litigation

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Post by midoridensha »

water-your-self wrote: post #13
dmitrygr wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> has far more marketshare Android maintained its position as the leading mobile operating system worldwide in the fourth quarter of 2022, controlling the mobile OS market with a close to 71.8 percent share, while iOS accounted for around 27.6 percent of the mobile operating system market.Jan 17, 2023 https://www.statista.com/statistics/272698/global-market-sha... .

In the united states apple has approx. 50% market share

Last I checked, it was more like 60%.

Re: Google Play Developer Antitrust Litigation

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Post by midoridensha »

dmitrygr wrote: post #6
midoridensha wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's always bothered me too. I think someone should be forced to admit to wrongdoing, or else keep battling in court to prove their side. That said, how does Google monopolize Android app distribution? You're free to install APKs yourself. So why isn't Apple being prosecuted? There's no such ability on that platform. Why does it always feel like Google is constantly being hounded about stuff that Apple gets off sco…

> has far more marketshare Android maintained its position as the leading mobile operating system worldwide in the fourth quarter of 2022, controlling the mobile OS market with a close to 71.8 percent share, while iOS accounted for around 27.6 percent of the mobile operating system market.Jan 17, 2023 https://www.statista.com/statistics/272698/global-market-sha... .

We're talking about US regulators here, so only marketshare in the US is relevant. Apple has 60% last time I checked.

Re: Google Play Developer Antitrust Litigation

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Post by mschuster91 »

nine_k wrote: post #10
midoridensha wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's always bothered me too. I think someone should be forced to admit to wrongdoing, or else keep battling in court to prove their side. That said, how does Google monopolize Android app distribution? You're free to install APKs yourself. So why isn't Apple being prosecuted? There's no such ability on that platform. Why does it always feel like Google is constantly being hounded about stuff that Apple gets off sco…

Isn't paying a fine technically an admission that the accusations are correct, and the compensation is due?

It's not a fine, it's more like hush money one pays to an extramarital affair, a disgruntled employee or in some cases a rape victim to keep their mouth shut or else.
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