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The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

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Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

#31
I hope that before .torrent files are gone, they (or some scraper) will publish them all as a torrent.

Somebody did that last time PB was in trouble, e.g. one of the pieces: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4232363a47fe29acdf2c77874365a5e3368854b4&

That's a pretty interesting dataset to mine.

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

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What I’m wondering is whether it’s not yet possible to have a distributed, decentralised torrent database. You could already put up a copy of the database as a torrent and distribute the magnet link, but you’d need some method for efficiently keeping it up to date.

DHTs/Torrents are great for static data (like a movie) but bad for dynamic data, like a website with a list of movies, their ratings, user comments, etc. There are, however, other systems that are designed to combat this, like freenet. They tend to be overwhelmingly slow, because you need to pass lots of data around to make it consistent. Then again, magnet links, titles, and a little html are probably not a lot of i…

I think the easiest way is to not make it really "dynamic" but an append-only structure of static content. For example a Reddit thread might be representable as a static list of actions (add reply, upvote, downvote, etc), which the client would process to get the current state.

That way, you could immediately download an earlier version of a resource and then get the updates as they spread through the network.

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

#33
It is still fascinating how resilient not only Piratebay but also others such as Demonoid have become. A few years ago it looked like they were close to getting shut down. It is impressive how they are now able to withstand all the "forces" and Governments had to shift their focus towards the ISPs.

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

#34
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Don't the torrent files contain all the hashes for each piece? Doesn't that mean if a single piece is bad, the entire torrent can't be verified? Torrent files contain a lot of useful data that isn't found in a magnet URI. Is this just being ignored?

The hash in a magnet URI is of the info dictionary in the .torrent file. It's used to query the BitTorrent DHT for peers running the same torrent. Once another peer is found, your client will download the full metadata file from it, and from there it works just like any other BitTorrent download.

http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0005.html http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0009.html

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

#35

So, what if you don't run the client on the same machine you're browsing TPB with, like people who have torrent enabled routers or VPS/seedboxes? I suppose you can copy-paste the link to your client, but clients which had automatic pick-up of .torrent files (like rtorrent) were nice because you could just drop them on a remote directory and have them be downloaded. I wonder if I could write a small application just t…

Why not set up an email fetch service on the remote box, and email magnet links? Then just throw together a wrapper that looks for magnet links in new email. Viola!

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, I didn't see this before. I can understand filtering certain terms for court requests, but voluntarily? It looks like Google is attacking distribution methods of content with such broad filtering. Probably to make compromises with the anti-Internet activists. Now judges can interpret it to mean that Google can happily censor any results for certain words as it has been done in other anti-Internet regimes. What s…

Note that this isn't filtering the terms for search, just filtering them for auto-complete. As in, if I type "lord of the rings" it won't suggest "lord of the rings torrent" even if that is the most common or one of the most common searches beginning with "lord of the rings." If you actually type "lord of the rings torrent" and hit return, Google will still do that search and return relevant results. They are doing t…

My concern was mostly due to this statement:

"This is something we looked at and thought we could make some narrow and relatively easy changes to our Autocomplete algorithm that could make a positive difference, Cano added."

They believe in filtering broad innocent terms in them as a solution to copyright infringement rather than saying "No no, we can't filter broad terms, especially innocent uses of it. Not only does the language evolve, but the infringers can adopt innocent names like congress:. We need to intelligently handle copyright infringement without hurting access to legitimate websites."

It looks like part of doing SEO now is to be aware of avoiding broad innocent terms. I hope the unaware people don't get caught in Google's broad autocomplete filter.

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

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One drawback to magnet links is that you can not in advance see what files are there. So if you only want to download some of them, you first have to wait for the magnet to download the torrent, then go back to it and pick the files you want. A magnet link also makes it hard to check if the link you are looking at is a duplicate of what you have already. With a torrent you can check the file size and compare to other…

There isn't really a reason the piratebay web interface couldn't display that info for you anyway.

If users only upload the magnet file, the TPB wouldn't even know how big the file is, unless their servers queried the DHT for the .torrent file and extracted the data.

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

#39
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This site ( http://www.ghacks.net/2010/06/05/what-is-a-magnet-link-and-h... ) explains what Magnet links are and how trackers have traditionally worked in the past.

The original article had a link to this (http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrents-future-dht-pex-and-magne...) which I found a bit more helpful explaining the concepts.

Re: The Pirate Bay Will Stop Serving Torrents

#40
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Hey! I invented the magnet link, almost 10 years ago. Great to see it still evolving and spreading, based simply on its loosey-goosey merits.

It's weird, I've been seeing it for years but I never understood what it is. I still don't really.

But when I click on the magnets things seem to download immediately. So looks like you built something pretty amazing. Congrats!

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