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should firefighters wear cameras so we can see wtf is going on out there? i guess it would cost a lot of money, and prob be very wasteful, wreck privacy even more, etc. but... i wouldn't mind knowing a bit more of what's going on out there. now that our streets are even-more deadly beta robot playgrounds. and, with all the new tech, maybe we can learn some things.
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Why should it? I don't see how the firefighters did anything wrong.
Firefighters practically salivate at the possibility of smashing the windows of a car parked in front of a hydrant they need to access for supply. This isn't much different.
So what is the solution? Let emergency services have a remote control STOP button? But it would have many implications for passengers too
Maybe emergency services should have the ability to block autonomous vehicles from particular areas in real time. Certainly the companies should collaborate with them to produce a lot more training data for this kind of scenario.
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Sounds like having support for interpreting human gestures will solve some of the problems. But how do we distinguish real emergency scenario from fake one? Such kinds of problems will only scale up as we apply L5 cars take on more public roads, but I wonder how long or what changes will have to be done in current road signs, critical city infra to support them.
> But how do we distinguish real emergency scenario from fake one? A car shouldn't make that call. It should err on the side of safety and assuming the emergency is real. When you see flashing lights on the highway coming up behind you, do you think "I bet that ambulance is faking it so they can get home faster", or do you just move over?
I think the simple truth is that we are still a long long long time away from fully autonomous cars to be safely deployed anywhere except on very specific paths that are mostly closed off to everyone else.
But they could be tremendously useful there, for instance driving buses or airport shuttles and that kind of thing.
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Sounds like having support for interpreting human gestures will solve some of the problems. But how do we distinguish real emergency scenario from fake one? Such kinds of problems will only scale up as we apply L5 cars take on more public roads, but I wonder how long or what changes will have to be done in current road signs, critical city infra to support them.
> But how do we distinguish real emergency scenario from fake one? A car shouldn't make that call. It should err on the side of safety and assuming the emergency is real. When you see flashing lights on the highway coming up behind you, do you think "I bet that ambulance is faking it so they can get home faster", or do you just move over?
"In the context of war, perfidy is a form of deception in which one side promises to act in good faith (such as by raising a flag of truce) with the intention of breaking that promise ... Perfidy constitutes a breach of the laws of war and so is a war crime, as it degrades the protections and mutual restraints developed in the interest of all parties, combatants and civilians. "
Pretending to surrender is something that's shown a lot in Star Trek and similar shows, and Pirates of the Carribean, but in our real-life world of 2023 it's a UN war crime to pretend to surrender, and it's really not a nice thing to do because if some people sometimes pretend to surrender, then pretty soon no one will trust surrender attempts and people who wanted to stop fighting will needlessly be lost.
The idea of criminals faking a medical emergency is similar imho. If I were in a position of determining how much time robbers should serve in prison, I would personally recommend a much much longer sentence if they faked a medical emergency, for exactly this reason.
Not saying that is right or not, just surprised this is apparently an issue worth smashing a car up for. I have no recollection of this being in the highway code for instance
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Why should it? I don't see how the firefighters did anything wrong.
Firefighters practically salivate at the possibility of smashing the windows of a car parked in front of a hydrant they need to access for supply. This isn't much different.
So what is the solution? Let emergency services have a remote control STOP button? But it would have many implications for passengers too